Wilson Driver

Bangoman · 2016-12-12T16:11:47+00:00

I called a few friends that purchased the Wilson driver and their exact words: "Not only are they not selling no one even asking about them." Your thoughts...

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sdandrea1

Any changes to existing momentum is difficult.
Decades of built up won't be removed over night.
But all source of issues starts from the top.
Leadership is what matters.
Did you see report of Columbia in the 60 Minutes program from last night ?

sdandrea1

Release

Yes, it was fascinating. Hiring an ad campaign guy to run psyop on the guerrillas was genius.

I think the IRS is a prime candidate for house cleaning and simplification, but the bureaucracy, momentum and politics will probably prevent any real change in my lifetime. Could be the same for the USGA.

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sdandrea1

The second part of the same report of the mayor of Medellin Columbia is more fascinating than the tricking the guerrillas out of the jungle.
The guerrillas could return to the jungle anytime they feel like it, pick up the rifle and back to the way it was just like that. The campaign gave them free ticket to take a R & R. True impact is still to be seen.

The changes in the city of Medellin has deeper and stronger impact to the country than louring the guerrilla out of the jungle. . The changes of the city gave the people "hope" , a way to get to a better life. Hope is a very powerful state of mind.

ode

It's arbitrary....I wish someone would sue these fukks and put them out of business....I think the only way these guys go away is when the PGA, LPGA, etc. Separate themselves from the usga. I don't give a flying fukk about Wilson triton or any other oem, it's the goddam principal of the thing. If they can pull this shit with Wilson, watcha thin happens with Maltby or Hireko?

That being said they should have submitted it, but I do underatand why they didn't considering how it all went down.

And can someone explain how having a little extra weight , ie the 12g screw would impact CT/cor vs. the 2 or 6g screw in? If that's the case anyone could put extra lead tape on the same driver and impact COR...no? So is it really about COR/CT or COR/CT at the time of testing? How do these fukks pick which head gets tested, they come to Wilson and pick one or Wilson sends one?

Bangoman

ode

If you knowingly doctor a head to possibly break a rule real or imagined is considered CHEATING! The key words here: knowingly changing to gain an edge.

And the company submits all lofts at $150.00 per head. Adding weigh to delay or increase head rotation is legal as well to increase swing weight but adding weight to beat a rule is cheating.

Par4QC

ode

http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/equipment-standards/how-to-submit-equipment-for-testing.html

ode

Bangoman thx....does the usga need to test with every config?

Anyway, does it make sense from your perspective that the cor/CT would go up with an extra few grams of weight? I could see the moi changing with moving the weight, but the cor/ct?

You should name your first Omg driver with a big middle finger emblem followed by Submit This

Plain in Shape followed by a big middle finger emblem

😉

kchacker

Par4QC I think we need to quit putting 100% blame(or any) on the USGA.

I don't blame the USGA in any way for the Wilson driver head issue. I blame them for just about everything else.

LBlack14

Screw both! I'm looking for an F6, now somebody list one for cheap. I should be ready to play by about next September.

Bangoman

If it were me I would just run with it. Too Hot for the USGA!! They might sell thru better! Run with it I say....but they won't.

LBlack14

Bangoman If it were me I would just run with it. Too Hot for the USGA!! They might sell thru better! Run with it I say....but they won't.

Uuuuh, isn't that cheating.....or should I say LYING??

Bangoman

LBlack14 is

How is saying "Too hot for theI USGA" in an ad campaign "lying or cheating"? You're telling the consumer it's illegal by the USGA!

Par4QC

I see that all this could have been prevented, if a certain party had not been in such a damn hurry......

"If submitting a mock-up, prototype or first article sample for preliminary review, no payment is necessary."

But, do they give an opinion?

Release

Bangoman How is saying "Too hot for theI USGA" in an ad campaign "lying or cheating"? You're telling the consumer it's illegal by the USGA!

Already been in use for many times over the years.

LBlack14

Is it "too hot"?

Bangoman

LBlack14

What are you trying to say Landon?

Bangoman

Spuzz

Yes Par. But Wilson must have changed the proto or just randomly submitted....big error there.

LBlack14

Bangoman What are you trying to say Landon?

I'm not trying to say anything, I'm saying are they too hot or not?? If not, then don't lie about it. Isn't this whole issue about being able to see the sole plate at address or not??

Bangoman

@LBlack14#1tn sea ma3554 m

They already stated with the 12 gram insert weights it was over CT in several lofts. That means Too Hot! doesn't it?

LBlack14

Bangoman They already stated with the 12 gram insert weights it was over CT in several lofts. That means Too Hot! doesn't it?

That's what I'm asking you, LOL! Does that mean too hot or the ball just stays on the face a smidge too long?

Bangoman

LBlack14

Do I really have to explain CT testing? Way too much typing and my eyes are going South on me.

Par4QC

LBlack14 the ball just stays on the face a smidge too long?

http://golf.about.com/od/equipment/fl/Characteristic-Time.htm

Bangoman

Par...I have verbally described an idea of mine that I wasn't sure was legal. I have also fax'ed them with a hand drawn pic of an idea. The will respond very quickly and tell you what changes need to be made even with no proto head. The engineers are very accommodating.

LBlack14

Bangoman Do I really have to explain CT testing? Way too much typing and my eyes are going South on me.

Naaah Steve, don't bother. I'm with Uncle Steve on this one. I think the USGA is a joke all the way around. I would like to see this rule book about conforming and non conforming that some here keep talking about and leave no doubt about why the sole plate makes this a non conforming club.

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