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Yes...to me it makes sense to test all Wilson claims if it's a selling feature.

Wasn't the former equipment head of the USGA involved in the show, Frank Thomas???? I'm shocked if he was involved that they allowed an illegal driver to win the competition.

    PA-PLAYA outright asshatish as the organization truly is

    asshatish - LMAO! Submit that to Webster for inclusion. 😃

    Desperate attempt to get attention seems to have worked, well done Wilson, well done.

    Landon, I'm pretty sure that if the ball stays on the face too long, it offers a distance advantage. Therefore, the answer to your question "Is it really too hot?" would be "yes," if configured with the heavier weight.

    Not that the average golfer would be able to realize even a yard of extra distance, but from a technical standpoint the driver could be marketed as "too hot for the USGA."

    Wow we have not had a thread this long since FGI went belly up. That was fun reading the back and forth. I have no opinion nor do I care about it. I no longer keep a handicap, not do I play in tournaments. That is not to say that I don't have an opinion on the USGA. When the book to explain the rules is three times (or more) larger than the rule book you know that there is a problem. I get tired of the keeper of the rules saying that the rules are easy to follow when even the Pros who play this game for millions of dollars don't know the rules or can not decipher them either. I am not sure the ratio of those who keep a handicap versus those who just play to play the game. But I would think there are way more who play the game and don't keep a handicap. Thus they are free to play any club they want whether it is conforming to the rules of not. I would guess they don't really care and in fact if it is TOO HOT for the USGA they might ever gravitate to it albeit not for almost $600. These clubs today are getting so expensive it really is ridiculous.

    And then came the slow methodical drip of truth surrounding the details.

    Snippets added (for those not interested in reading the article), and a link provided for those that are.
    http://golfweek.com/2016/12/13/usga-wilson-triton-raised-red-flags-immediately/

    "...When we saw the product, there were certain features of it that immediately caused conformance concerns."

    "...the USGA did not receive Triton test samples until Nov. 21, just four days before the product went on sale.

    "...the turnaround time for testing products is “about 14 days."

    This debacle was destined to be a flaming grease fire from Day One, reminding us that Golf Channel would do well to go back to a time when airing segments of Shell's Wonderful World of Golf, Playing Lessons with the Pros, Golf Talk Live with Peter Kessler, and similar authentic, real-golfer quality programming had yet to be replaced with Big Break Whatever, Caddyshack or Tin Cup reruns, and whatever other reality-based cockamamie filler-fluff bullshit they religiously opt for as opposed to quality programming.

    In my mind, Golf Channel isn't immune from assuming the lion's share of blame in all of this.

      PA-PLAYA In my mind, Golf Channel isn't immune from assuming the lion's share of blame in all of this.

      No, they are not, and that is what I've been trying to point out. Everyone is jumping the USGA.....hey, they got the rules written down....they let you send in a mockup for free and give opinion of such....for free. Everything is explained so that anyone sending in a head should already know if it's going to pass or not, imo. Hell, some even send them in, knowing they will fail, in order to get the "illegal" stamp....legally, to have written proof in order to create high interest in such heads.

      TGC has a huge stake in all this, to the point they get money from the sales also. It is stated at the bottom of the site where you buy them.(I've posted this in a thread.....somewhere here) So, imo, the onus is on TGC, as much as or more than, Wilson. Forget the USGA, not their fault. I'd be repeating myself if I said I think TGC sought out a company in order to make this series, but I will as I do believe that is how it was done. Wilson just happened to be the stupid co. that fell into the shitstorm. I doubt if they've ever produced a driver that was deemed non-conforming, but all other companies most certainly have.(not so sure about PING).

      Now, does anyone have a bit of a memory here....remember the Wishon illegal driver head(purposely produced that way) and what Tom sold the heads for? Does anyone also remember what those heads were selling for on the internet?? So, this stupid, uglyass driver head could now go from an overpriced POS to an upscale club for a lot of players!! And for a lot more money than Wilson/TGC is selling them for.