Wilson Driver

Bangoman · 2016-12-12T16:11:47+00:00

I called a few friends that purchased the Wilson driver and their exact words: "Not only are they not selling no one even asking about them." Your thoughts...

Bangoman

ode

If you knowingly doctor a head to possibly break a rule real or imagined is considered CHEATING! The key words here: knowingly changing to gain an edge.

And the company submits all lofts at $150.00 per head. Adding weigh to delay or increase head rotation is legal as well to increase swing weight but adding weight to beat a rule is cheating.

ode

Bangoman thx....does the usga need to test with every config?

Anyway, does it make sense from your perspective that the cor/CT would go up with an extra few grams of weight? I could see the moi changing with moving the weight, but the cor/ct?

You should name your first Omg driver with a big middle finger emblem followed by Submit This

Plain in Shape followed by a big middle finger emblem

😉

kchacker

Par4QC I think we need to quit putting 100% blame(or any) on the USGA.

I don't blame the USGA in any way for the Wilson driver head issue. I blame them for just about everything else.

LBlack14

Screw both! I'm looking for an F6, now somebody list one for cheap. I should be ready to play by about next September.

Par4QC

ode

http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/equipment-standards/how-to-submit-equipment-for-testing.html

Bangoman

If it were me I would just run with it. Too Hot for the USGA!! They might sell thru better! Run with it I say....but they won't.

LBlack14

Bangoman If it were me I would just run with it. Too Hot for the USGA!! They might sell thru better! Run with it I say....but they won't.

Uuuuh, isn't that cheating.....or should I say LYING??

Bangoman

LBlack14 is

How is saying "Too hot for theI USGA" in an ad campaign "lying or cheating"? You're telling the consumer it's illegal by the USGA!

Par4QC

I see that all this could have been prevented, if a certain party had not been in such a damn hurry......

"If submitting a mock-up, prototype or first article sample for preliminary review, no payment is necessary."

But, do they give an opinion?

Release

Bangoman How is saying "Too hot for theI USGA" in an ad campaign "lying or cheating"? You're telling the consumer it's illegal by the USGA!

Already been in use for many times over the years.

LBlack14

Is it "too hot"?

Bangoman

LBlack14

What are you trying to say Landon?

Bangoman

Spuzz

Yes Par. But Wilson must have changed the proto or just randomly submitted....big error there.

LBlack14

Bangoman What are you trying to say Landon?

I'm not trying to say anything, I'm saying are they too hot or not?? If not, then don't lie about it. Isn't this whole issue about being able to see the sole plate at address or not??

Bangoman

@LBlack14#1tn sea ma3554 m

They already stated with the 12 gram insert weights it was over CT in several lofts. That means Too Hot! doesn't it?

LBlack14

Bangoman They already stated with the 12 gram insert weights it was over CT in several lofts. That means Too Hot! doesn't it?

That's what I'm asking you, LOL! Does that mean too hot or the ball just stays on the face a smidge too long?

Bangoman

LBlack14

Do I really have to explain CT testing? Way too much typing and my eyes are going South on me.

Par4QC

LBlack14 the ball just stays on the face a smidge too long?

http://golf.about.com/od/equipment/fl/Characteristic-Time.htm

Bangoman

Par...I have verbally described an idea of mine that I wasn't sure was legal. I have also fax'ed them with a hand drawn pic of an idea. The will respond very quickly and tell you what changes need to be made even with no proto head. The engineers are very accommodating.

LBlack14

Bangoman Do I really have to explain CT testing? Way too much typing and my eyes are going South on me.

Naaah Steve, don't bother. I'm with Uncle Steve on this one. I think the USGA is a joke all the way around. I would like to see this rule book about conforming and non conforming that some here keep talking about and leave no doubt about why the sole plate makes this a non conforming club.

Par4QC

LBlack14

I give you this.....

•features that extend into or ahead of the face;

from.......http://www.usga.org/rules/equipment-rules.html#!rule-14621

Now see what I mean about everyone bitching here.....no one takes the time to study things before getting upset. The rules and procedures are written for easy reading.😉

Bangoman

LBlack14

Look at the BB 450 Landon. As I understand it from the face angle you are not to see any configurations which may also include other view points...just guessing on that. I told them to explain to me why that makes it illegal.., Plain in shape ruling they said. Now remember that the 450 was already on the market for sometime and was deemed legal by USGA. They tried to reverse that decision,

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