Par4QC Still doesn't say the PGA itself gives anything, except their name. If I'm not mistaken, the PGA does give away money, but that money is from donations at each tournament; thus, THEY are not pulling money from their account.

Asked and answered. Look up how the United Way and Red Cross raise money. Most charities raise money thru donations. On a small scale example. Let's say you want to raise money for your high school golf team.

You run a golf tournament to raise money thru donations to play in the tournament. You solicit local businesses to advertise in your tournament. The money comes thru donations in one form or another.

Nothing new here.

      mikeintopeka

      I thought the same thing. He kept chastising the media for asking questions about LIV. None of his answers were definitive imo. His brother is there. Time will tell.

        garyt1957 All that, and again I ask you, name one time where it has worked??????

        Not the question to ask imo. Irrelevant. How well any PR or marketing campaign works is relative. They obviously think it's helping their image in the world. That's all that matters. Lot's of gullible people in the world as we know.

        Odds are some are falling for it. Not everyone has working BS meter in their brain as we know.

            I think Brooks was irritated that the focus seemed to be more on controversy than it was on the U.S. Open. It's the biggest event (though some may say the Masters) in the year for U.S. golf and he thinks the focus should be on the event, players, and venue and not on other things for this week. Can't say I disagree with him. I think most of the Super Bowl players and coaches would probably be irritated if they were all being asked questions about the USFL during media day. But for the media it is about controversy and clicks and not about the event at hand. One could argue, at least for this year, that the new existence of LIV has nothing to do with the U.S. Open.

            Or, maybe he's afraid of being called out? Given that Brooks has already cashed in and played in two Saudi Events, 2019 & 2020 Saudi International.

              Stu1961 Could be, but he's never showed signs of being afraid before. He doesn't seem to care about what sort of press he gets as long as he gets press.

                  Sneakylong Lot's of gullible people in the world as we know

                  Then perhaps those gullible people are the Saudi's who think it will work?

                      Stu1961 Then perhaps those gullible people are the Saudi's who think it will work?

                      Or maybe the Saudis, before investing billions of dollars, have done a little research. Perhaps they've deduced that even though there are some holdouts on GolfBuzz that they'll have to get back to later, worldwide they think it's working for them. 🤔

                          Sneakylong "Sportwashing has been used to describe events as far back as the 1936 Summer Olympics which were held in Berlin, Germany during Nazi rule and where used to spread Hitler's ideals of race and anti-Semitism

                          This "sportswashing" is sneaky BS. Germany decided to host the games to sportswash Hitler and the Nazi party's agenda two years before they took power!? Berlin won the right to host the '36 Olympic games in 1931 under Paul von Hindenburg.

                          Another great example of sportswashing that didn't work though.

                              Sneakylong The money comes thru donations in one form or another.

                              But not from PGA coffers, therefore, they are not charitable. They do not handle the donated money. It generally stays within the community, as they are the ones that gave.
                              It's kind of like this President we had one time.....taking all credit, did nothing!😅 (you may pick 'the one time')

                                Par4QC Gee, wonder why they are so mouthy about LIV??

                                Players that choose to stay on the PGA tour do have much to worry about. If viewership and gate tickets are reduced due to split public interest or lowered public interest then the value of sponsorship goes down. Purses and individual contracts would ultimately be downsized accordingly.

                                Edit to add: Of course they aren't really worried about that. They just have a stronger love of the game than others and are playing for the legacy.

                                    Walterjn I'm just trying to be a good boy and listen to those who know more about this than I do. I'm not sure who is right, and who is wrong.

                                    Me too.
                                    I am not advocating for either side and I don't see a need to pick one side or another.
                                    I leave that to the sanctimonious.
                                    I am pro-choice, in all aspects of life.
                                    I find the whole thing interesting and it's fun speculating at what the future holds.
                                    It's even more fun when I'm right.
                                    😉

                                        I don't even really care about the LIV tour. I didn't make any attempt to watch it last week. However, I do not think it is an entity of evil either. It is another option. One that I think is likely to fail, but maybe not if enough of the top talent heads for the guaranteed money.

                                          mikeintopeka Maybe he's waiting for a little better payday from the rival?

                                          He just got married and hasn't been 100% health wise, so no need to put his iron in the fire, yet.
                                          I think he joins his brother at some point, as long as he can still play the majors.
                                          Remember, he is a late bloomer and learned his chops on the Euro Tour, so I don't think he's beholding to the PGA Tour whatsoever.

                                            Spuzz fun speculating at what the future holds.

                                            Any speculation on what happens to the PGA if LIV signs are the up and coming talent and leaves the scrubs for the PGA? What happens to the PGA in the future (read - 10 years down the line)?

                                            Curious what buzzards think about that. The Big names that have chosen to stay with the PGA have retirement $ already. These new players have choices....LIV reportedly signed an amateur with a $6Mil signing bonus and a $250K per tournament appearance fee. So imagine all the new talent getting these types of deals and sign with LIV for their future.

                                            What happens to the PGA then, do their sponsors stick around for a 2nd rate tour?

                                            Sure is fun to speculate what the future holds....Fun times ahead.

                                                Stu1961 The PGA gives 3% of their annual Revenue

                                                Net Proceeds, after they pay themselves 45 million.
                                                :/