LogicalOne golfers who have experienced better numbers because of graphite.
Lighter overall weight actually helps some players. I haven't seen a 50 - 60 gram steel iron shaft yet.
What did you build today?
Par4QC I've been lucky, I guess. I
I've noticed that "perfect" strikes with a steel shaft are painless at impact. Mediocre ball striking with steel shows up the next day when all my elbow and shoulder joints are inflamed from the accumulation of steel swings. Graphite actually does dampen impact vibration better than any insert. If I want to play 4 days/week and occasionally more, I have to use graphite.
Par4QC But, imo, it's not what the shaft is made of causing those problems for people, it's the weight. You can change from steel to graphite, but if it's the same weight, it's still 'pulling' on all joints throughout the swing. And I think that is what causes the pain, more so than hitting the ball. Ferchrissakes, the ball is rubber!
So you use steel in all your woods and hybrids too right? 
LogicalOne Well, it didn't come out right. 
A lot of people want the graphite to help with aches/pains, or just the looks, or because it's the 'in thing' today. If they demand it, I would be one to refuse the fitting. Not going to have someone come back on me and say they hate them, after I told them they would. It's why I only do for me only.
Par4QC Understood Rex. 
sdandrea1 Have I recently fallen and hit my head....F no!!
Graphite in fw clubs and drivers feel better/work better. That sound contradictory over what I said....it shouldn't if you give it some thought. Irons are completely different than your other clubs. They are not designed to be 'random area' hits.
All you have to do is watch the Pros to see what I'm saying. Irons are like darts for them while their other clubs are all over the place.
Maybe they should all be using 'all steel'. 
LogicalOne I'd almost bet you don't.....you are just being nice. 
LogicalOne Understood Rex
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In the past day I put a different shaft into a ladies 7 hybrid. The set that I bought (XXIO 11) didn't have a men's #7 hybrid available. The ladies version, however, did have a #7 hybrid. I found one on ebay and I also found another men's XXIO hybrid (a #4) which I further trimmed the shaft to fit the hybrid head that I had purchased. The only problem was that I found that XXIO actually makes a completely different head for the ladies than they do for men. When I received the head, I found that it was a 31° head where the men's version is 29°. So, I guess I now have a #8 hybrid instead of a #7. I did find a XXIO Prime #7 hybrid to take it's place and I ordered that. So, in the long run I gained a #8 hybrid. Sooner or later I'll need a #8 hybrid. I'll try it to see if it works for me. I found that I definitely like a #7 hybrid. I started out with just a #3 hybrid many years ago but have slowly added a #4, #5, #6 and #7. For this set I didn't get the #3 .
Par4QC You said you recently fell and hit your head, which makes sense, so yeah…..
Man I build stuff way too infrequently. Anyhow, this go round was lead by a couple short length drivers, a SL FW set I bought long ago, as well as, a hybrid that's been on the bench for 2-3 seasons.
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18 degree SoooLong that I got from @Rickochet ? a couple of years ago.
Gonna try it at 44 inches to hit over trees on a short dogleg and a couple other tee shots.
DonM 18 degree SoooLong that I got from @Rickochet ? a couple of years ago.
Gonna try it at 44 inches to hit over trees on a short dogleg and a couple other tee shots.
I still have my 18° Sooolong. I am hanging on to it in case I can ever play again. I had just reshafted it before I broke my arm. I know that Spuzz hates these but I still think they are very good heads.
Par4QC But, you are never going to use the same weight graphite that you would use in steel. My point.
If you could get a 60 gr. steel, it would probably be different. It's not what the shaft is made of causing the pains, it's the weights.
Might be. But... I had bad elbow (2) tendonitis from LD and hitting so may balls ( mostly steel early on ) and
when I made the complete switch to graphite, the tendonitis went away and never came back. I did try
steel shaft inserts without much luck FYI. I personally feel that there must be something to harsh vibration
dampening going on with graphite. Love some steel shafts, but.....
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Par4QC Maybe they should all be using 'all steel'.
Back when I made enough speed to get steel to "function" in irons, I found it way more accurate and consistent than graphite. I understand why elite players would want that. I might only be arguing your implication that graphite is not a lot less painful than steel. It is in my case. 
Eguller when I made the complete switch to graphite, the tendonitis went away and never came back. I did try
steel shaft inserts without much luck FYI. I personally feel that there must be something to harsh vibration
dampening going on with graphite. Love some steel shafts, but.....
This......... exactly my case too.
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sdandrea1 . I might only be arguing your implication that graphite is not a lot less painful than steel.
Read me again. I did say, 2 times, given the same weights. Yes, lighter graphite is going to be better than heavy steel, but if the weights are the same, imo it should be much the same. The force of the weight is what is pulling on those tendons and muscles.
I'm probably still not making myself understood. 
A lot of people go to graphite in irons thinking it will help with physical problems, but does it, when they go with same weight as they used in steel????
I probably should not weigh in in these discussions any longer. I don't have the problems. I have used both graphite and steel, heavy & light, for many years in irons. I can tell the difference from a performance standpoint, but not from any pain relief standpoint. I have had harsh feeling graphite and steel shafts. And, I've had soft ones, sometimes too soft, esp. in graphite.
Get forged heads. Take away some of that sting when hitting the ball off center. 
Like butta!