Since, there seems some interest in non-traditional methods of the golf swing. Here are 3 that I have tried or used. There are more but these three I feel are achievable. All three have their merits and some pitfalls. Please discuss with a bit of live and let live. 😊

Kirk Junge Single Plane Set Up for Impact

Brian Sparks Positive Impact Golf (Now known more as The Easiest Swing in Golf)

Jim Venetos

    Tried 'em all, had enough initial success with them to know they can work but never stuck with one long enough to really getr good at it.

    What I see with the majority of amature golfers that struggle is the reverse weight shift and or casting the club. If you just fix, or teach to fix those two the traditional swing works well.

    I get the idea of the single plane and actually was messing around with it yesterday before I saw this, I may actually give it a fair chance.

    The last one, I believe called the effortless swing, looks like you are going to get a distanceless shot too. I could see it for short game, but I have no idea how that’s ever going to translate to distance at all. Maybe I’m too stuck in my ways to want to see it, but it looks like it going to be pitifully weak to me.

      Channel Lock is a method developed by John Hensby (JH) out of Australia. Bill Philipps is out of Tennessee and is a teacher of this method. It's basically a back ball position with an inside takeaway with the intent to swing in a 'channel' causing closed shoulders and an in to out swing. There's a few protocols that they advocate with this method.

      JH's Youtube channel is 1atomicgolf and Bill Philipps channel is MMI Golf. Both JH and Phillips are very good golfers, but it's Mr. X (JH's) friend and Matt (Phillips friend) who look to be even better than JH and Philipps.

      These two are high swing speed golfers who have taken their swings to new levels using this method. Both channels have tons of videos on this method. I'd skip the earlier ones as they just show the evolution of this method.

      Have not tried it myself, but I give these guys credit for putting out something unconventional that seems to have some merit.

        My swing is unconventional, but I'm betting nobody would want to adopt it or see it. 😱

        Actually, I'm working on the Brian Sparks thing and like it - pain-free & fatigue-free golf. However, If I get quick with it - FORE LEFT! Gotta keep that Sparks tempo.

          Sneakylong that I could get on board with, looks like it would make life easy on the back and especially for this calorically challenged fellows. I will give the principle a few shots at the range, I’m betting it would work pretty well.

          DC300 DC as you probably know but others may not consider that if you are going to put some effort time and money into Single Plane...you also need to consider using different equipment using Single Plane. You can use your "normal" equipment trying Single Plane but over time it would need to be changed to perform at a higher level.

          I don't even understand that Venetos's video. What the hell is he advocating? You stand like a statue? In that case, what moves the club? Is his swing all arms and hands?

          I like all of these. I'm a fan of not giving a crap about tradition if an alternative makes more sense. It's the same reason I switched to single length irons once I found out they existed - in my mind, it was an immediate "yep, that is a better way to do it" moment. Haven't looked back, and results have been great for me. Can't imagine why I'd ever play variable length irons again.

          Watching some of the guys on tour, even successful guys, I see a lot of stuff I would not want to emulate. Lots of up/down movement, lots of lateral slide. Never made sense to me to add excessive movement into the swing.

          For me, right now, I feel like I sit on a spot and don't move from it. I rotate without shifting my weight back significantly, then rotate back through without shifting my weight forward (since it never really went back.) Consistently of contact is excellent when I execute this, but the ol' habitual hip slide to start the downswing can creep in and sabotage my efforts.

          Thanks for sharing.

            ZWExton m a fan of not giving a crap about tradition if an alternative makes more sense

            The only thing that matters is what happens at impact. The ideal ball trajectory and divot location is harder to accomplish using radically alternative swing methods.

              pellmell The only thing that matters is what happens at impact.

              THIS!! There are lots of ways to get the club back to the ball in the right position for correct impact - to each his/her own. πŸ˜‰

                I have poor muscle memory and have no idea what I'm doing out there most of the time. My brother-in-law is big student of the swing, and he's always trying something different. He suggested I watch 1atomicgolf and I was watching some of his stuff before his DaVinci Code (which was Channel Lock's predecessor). JH is a hoot, as he often claims that " I can't hit it any better than that," but you usually can't see where the ball lands, so you have to take him at his word. I have tried Channel Lock, and since you play the ball back in your stance and come way inside, it might be easy to groove a swing, as you can't do too much else and still hit the ball. But I found I got about 1/3 pushes way too far right, 1/2 pretty good, and the rest were poor contact hitting too down too much along with the more than occasional duck hook. I found it much more effective with shorter clubs than longer -- to me, it wasn't at all helpful with driver.

                I've tried a little of Count Yogi, who was a character and a half and taught a lot of stars back in Hollywood's golden age, and he preached playing the ball forward and swinging up the line. But as one of my swings often looks nothing like the preceding one or the next one, I get similar levels of success no matter what I try. Alas.

                Sneakylong I've watched tons of JH's videos and he seems to be a really good guy, but he would try to demonstrate all these different swings and they all looked the same to me.
                I remember one swing you HAD to do something. I believe it was bend the left arm straight up. I mean, this was the whole concept of the swing. I posted that in the video he didn't actually do it, his left arm was straight. He answered but it "feels" like I bend it. I didn't argue cause like I said he seems like a really good guy. He's in great shape to for 70+

                  I switched to the Brian Manzella swing. Back when he came to FGI, but before the discussions got too heated, I printed out an overview of his instructions and changed his left/right identifiers to back/fore so I could understand them as i am a lefty. Initially with my irons, it greatly reduced how often I sliced. I even use it with my woods and my driver. Although I may not get maximum distance from my driver, I will take 90% straighter and 240 from driver (I typically am at worst in the 1st cut of rough) over in the next fairway and 275 any day (which happened 3 times a round). I do have a hook come into play now, but I weaken my grip and that seems to work.

                    I also did a lot of drills from the little red book, though by now, I am not sure you can call them non traditionl.

                    ronin74 It's funny, he now says he was wrong all those years. He now advocates pulling the handle of the club up into you somewhere around impact,ifI remember. He's made it big since FGI, he now is often featured in Golf Magazine.

                    scotts33
                    A buddy of mine switched to his own version of Stack and Tilt a few years ago, and it made a huge difference in his game....he went from a low 80's player to a mid 70's player in one season! So, I decided to try his method. I was getting a little frustrated with it, so went searching on YouTube and stumbled across Jim Venetos' videos. For some reason, his method clicked with me. I don't think my setup is as extreme as his, and I think I rotate my body a little more than he does, but I've been pretty successful with his method. The biggest thing, IMO, is that I DON't shift my weight to my back foot as much as I used to, keeping my left heel on the ground and simply rotating my upper body. I've become a more consistent ball-striker, and keep the ball in play much better than I used to.

                    I think as we get older (I'll turn 73 in a couple of weeks), we sometimes need to re-examine our methods b/c the body can't do the same things it could when we were younger. I think some of these alternative methods help simplify the movements of the golf swing for those of us who because of age, flexibility, or declining athleticism can't hit it quite as well as we used to. I'm intrigued by both the single plane swing and the "Channel Lock" method. In fact, I may watch some of these videos and see if I can incorporate any of their ideas into my funky old swing! Thanks for your post.....

                      fatshot I think as we get older (I'll turn 73 in a couple of weeks), we sometimes need to re-examine our methods b/c the body can't do the same things it could when we were younger. I think some of these alternative methods help simplify the movements of the golf swing for those of us who because of age, flexibility, or declining athleticism can't hit it quite as well as we used to.

                      Yes!!!!

                      The Kirk Junge method at the top is the same single plane swing Moe Norman and Todd Graves teach/taught. Jerry Heard also taught a very similar method, except he set up with his weight already on his back foot, so the backswing had no weight shift, just the turning of hips and shoulders and cocking the wrists. I use the single plane method. Sadly, if you don't get to play or practice very much, any method of launching golf balls any significant distance relatively straight is difficult.