Non-Traditional Golf Swing Discussion
If you position correctly and use the shield with a Sports Sensors Golf Swing Speed Radar With Tempo Timer it can get good ball speed readings. Swinging at a ball will yield different speeds from my experience.
I use it a lot myself with the timer to get transition times as I use a Easiest/Triangulaid swing and good tempo and the same transition times or a huge factor when training yourself. ....using these specific types of swing doctrines. I am surprised that the Easiest guys Sparks/Meilor etal don't use the Sports Sensor with Tempo in their teaching.
scotts33 I think you will find when swinging at a ball speed changes.
Not sure how I screwed up my original reply. What I meant to write was:
No doubt, but I assume the Trahan swing will still be faster. 6 mph is meaningful. I don't use the radar for the exact speed, just to compare. I've heard different things on the radar from it's really accurate to about 5 miles fast.
scotts33 If you position correctly and use the shield with a Sports Sensors Golf Swing Speed Radar With Tempo Timer it can get good ball speed readings. Swinging at a ball will yield different speeds from my experience.
I had just read about getting ball speed using it but haven't tried it yet.. No mention of a "shield" when doing so, what's that about? From my reading you lay it flat about 4 feet in front of you. Is the shield just something you put in front of it so you don't accidently hit it with the ball?
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garyt1957 I had just read about getting ball speed using it but haven't tried it yet.. No mention of a "shield" when doing so, what's that about? From my reading you lay it flat about 4 feet in front of you. Is the shield just something you put in front of it so you don't accidently hit it with the ball?
Yes they used to come with a plastic green shield that protected the unit.
IMO while working with the Easiest concept which I still do or Triangulaid club head speed is way down the list of what factors I consider to be important. Club head speed comes along slowly as you ingrain the Easiest concept. Over swinging/rushing from the top is the #1 swing killer for just about all types of golf swings.
scotts33 IMO while working with the Easiest concept which I still do or Triangulaid club head speed is way down the list of what factors I consider to be important. Club head speed comes along slowly as you ingrain the Easiest concept. Over swinging/rushing from the top is the #1 swing killer for just about all types of golf swings
Weeellll, Kinda two different topics there. I agree overswinging/rushing from the top is bad, but it has nothing to do with SS. I can rush from the top swinging 80 mph and long drive guys can swing 140 without rushing. They don't go hand in hand. Speed is king if you want to hit it far(ther). It's physics, plain and simple.
Of course center face contact, balance etc are important and swinging out of your shoes isn't going to work but all things equal speed = distance.
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garyt1957 Weeellll, Kinda two different topics there. I agree overswinging/rushing from the top is bad, but it has nothing to do with SS. I can rush from the top swinging 80 mph and long drive guys can swing 140 without rushing. They don't go hand in hand. Speed is king if you want to hit it far(ther). It's physics, plain and simple.
Of course center face contact, balance etc are important and swinging out of your shoes isn't going to work but all things equal speed = distance.
Since, we are both seniors and not kids I can't agree with you. All things being equal I have not meet more than handful of seniors that could make club head speed a priority. Accuracy is still king in scoring. It's okay to disagree.
garyt1957 Who Trahan? Yea, he's talky and a little New Jersey-ish. You gotta tune out all the extra curricular stuff and just focus on what matters.
That's a New England accent as Trahan was born and grew up in New Bedford MA. He was a scratch player by the time he was 12 years old. His non rotary vertical swing method works for a lot of golfers.
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I have been moving increasingly toward a simplified approach to the swing, ala Brian Sparks and Triangulaid. But recently I have been watching a Scottish guy named Steve Johnston on YouTube. His Eureka golf swing is basically the same as Triangulaid. But Steve also has a lot of videos that deal with specific swing issues/flaw and I have been watching a number of those. I don't think I have ever watched a series of videos that has helped my swing this much. Everything I have tried from his videos has helped in some way.
Check out Danny Maude on YouTube.
Interesting easy to execute drills ++
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So along with my Minimalist experiment today, I added another variable. I spent an hour on the range yesterday trying out Kirk Junge's setup and swing. All I did was mirror his front loaded, single plane, arms high setup and just swung. I could tell my hands were in a different position at the top, but damn if that didn't put me in a nice in-to-out plane to impact. I had instant success. Impact was suddenly solid. Shots were high and straight to a slight draw, and the stiff steel shafts in my mini-bag felt like butter. Weird. The old Titleist 905R is suddenly longer than my new Cobra FMax Offset. The ancient Eye 2 7i and i3 Blade 9i are money, as were the Cleveland wedges, etc. It was a good ball striking day with what feels like a very robotic DeChambeau kind of swing. My back and shoulder don't hurt at all today, post round. I put a few drives in spots I haven't been too (in a good way) with an old beater. Shot my personal best on this track. Hope it lasts!
Steve--It is interesting that you can go from P.I.G. double plane swing to Junge single axis swing. To me they are executed very differently. If you can do this much applause for you. I couldn't change back and forth well and execute well. Short clubs not so much of an issue but longer with Junge forget it...straight but lost massive distance. Plus if I go back and forth I'd lose whatever gains I had made using one swing method.
That is impressive to implement a different swing like that! I can play around with 6 iron or shorter, but to mess around with longer clubs is a disaster for me.
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pellmell With the exception of the grip, Kirk Junge's movement is traditional. Hips level throughout the swing coupled with side bending on the downswing promotes proper rotation (no sliding), like Gary Woodland and Dustin Johnson.
I don't doubt that - I'm no swing expert. What feels strange to me is the high arms and forward loaded hips at address. Not used to having my right arm on plane with the shaft and my left hip bumped out. This makes my backswing feel COMPLETELY different, but when I drop the club into the downswing, things feel right, impact feels right. One of the new sensations for me is my head stays behind the ball all the way through impact.
