fatshot I think as we get older (I'll turn 73 in a couple of weeks), we sometimes need to re-examine our methods b/c the body can't do the same things it could when we were younger. I think some of these alternative methods help simplify the movements of the golf swing for those of us who because of age, flexibility, or declining athleticism can't hit it quite as well as we used to.
Yes!!!!
The Kirk Junge method at the top is the same single plane swing Moe Norman and Todd Graves teach/taught. Jerry Heard also taught a very similar method, except he set up with his weight already on his back foot, so the backswing had no weight shift, just the turning of hips and shoulders and cocking the wrists. I use the single plane method. Sadly, if you don't get to play or practice very much, any method of launching golf balls any significant distance relatively straight is difficult.
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I'm intrigued by Moe Norman! There are a few videos of him giving clinics and demonstrating his swing to be found on YouTube. He looks like a freakin' MACHINE! My only misgivings are the fact that I would have to bend way forward in order to extend my arms as he does, and I'm afraid of what that would do to my back (it's bad already!!).
I like to see others succeed with different approaches, but I have not been disciplined (or perhaps interested) enough to practice to the point where I can get really good at any technique. Any way you can get the ball into the hole without cheating is fair game.
Single length is a hard concept for me to get my mind around. The reason is that when my swing is on, my contact with all irons seems to be good and my struggles are short game, and sometimes also driver related. Perhaps my swing would be "on" more often with most clubs being a single length, but at this stage in life, and knowing I won't put in the time, I'm just not really willing to experiment. Perhaps when my flexibility changes noticeably my mind will change on that.
I have experimented with most of these concepts and the problem with all of them is loss of distance. They all work better for high swing speed players.Moe Norman was the best ball striker of his time but a very short hitter.
In my experience for any golf swing change whether it's a PGA traditional or conventional or a non-traditional it takes about 5 months of repetition to effect a change. Most don't stay the course long enough to see the efforts pay off.
I agree. All of his (J.H.'s) swings look the same. But as he says it's his intent / feel that counts. I can't do the extreme back ball position, but today I played the ball about 2- 3 balls back of middle with an inside takeaway. I hit some really nice shots. The premise of Channel Lock makes sense to me. As an upper body swinger my shoulders can spin open too soon, so the whole closed shoulders thing makes sense.
I think all these different methods will work for many people. It just takes commitment and sticking with it. In the end I'm always looking for better ball striking as it seems my scoring stays the same regardless of which method I use.
I've heard Bryson DeChambeau's irons are as much as 9-10 degrees upright and of course he uses jumbo grips. Moe Norman swung more flat with his high hands and Bryson swings more upright. Again, all these different swings work, it's just which one works best for your swing.
Sneakylong BD's irons are 37.50" 73 deg. upright well they were when he played Edel but I would think very close with Cobra.
Ping's G400 6 iron is listed at 37 5/8" long with a 61.1 degrees lie angle. That makes his clubs around 12 degrees upright. That's pretty upright.
Sneakylong From 2016 but believe iron specs are the same. Note article. 37.50" playing length 73.5 deg lie angle. 280g heads which are close to 18g to 20g heavier than most golfers 6i. I think this would be to effect the heft match in that his large over size JumboMax grips I believe are 120g. Makes for an overall very heavy club but when you are young so what. 
https://golfweek.com/2016/03/31/bryson-dechambeau-plays-cobra-irons-georgia-cup-2/
Sneakylong not at address
scotts33 sledgehammer
I am on year 15 of using "Natural Golf". My version is almost identical to what Kirk Junge is teaching. I use the same grip. I set up with slightly less side tilt than him, which helps me get down into the ball easier than when I tried to do it like Moe did. However, every such variation is a trade off of some sort, and when you are learning it, it's important to try to follow the model. I wasted a lot of years trying to do everything "except" this or that. It all matches up, and when go off on your own way, it's likely to fall apart. Sure, there are customizations according to your build and tendencies. Especially your personal hip speed. But start with the model and be patient.
I've tried flat like Moe and upright like Bryson, but always end up about like Kirk. My clubs are just a tad upright. My 37 inch 7 iron is 64 degrees, so nothing crazy. With the palm grip, I fit best into midsize grips, but due to some finger pain I have been using jumbos this year. I have to decide if that is permanent, even if the pain is gone. Which it might be. You certainly can begin using this swing with ordinary clubs and grips, as long as they are not flat lies. AND, you might prefer a flatter plane like Moe anyway. It takes some time, years in my case, to figure that out. Kirk says most people like to be more upright than that, and I suspect that's right. Graves Golf teaches the flatter method. I found my answer in the dirt. Basically, which swing plane would let me hit the ball first, then take a divot, and have the divot pointing at the target?
This swing is VERY easy on the back. In fact, a bad back was what prompted me to try it in the first place. The reason it is easy on the back is that the hips are not as far open at impact as with a normal swing. Sometimes if I lose my swing, I'll try to play with a more normal swing. My back always reminds me why I wasn't doing that to begin with.
The swing is very accurate. I have much less side spin this way. I dropped 12-15 strokes almost immediately after switching to it. From mid to upper 90s, to low to mid 80s. Today I'm a 10 hcp. If I had ever invested time and effort into putting and short game, I'd be a 6 or 7. I found distance to be the same before and after.
Moe in his prime had competitive distance. But given any choice between distance and accuracy, he chose accuracy first.
