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  • JB Holmes - what would you have done?

Spuzz he still has to have the balls to make that shot, but I do agree if there is ever a shot where it would be impacted by this situation it's going to be moreso the touch shots. Shame really!

I hear all the time how pace of play, at least in some parts of GB&I, is fast, ie 4somes walking in 3.5 hours or less,.it almost seems impossible given how.the pace of play is in the states and the attitudes like JB, etc., IMO I think there are far more folks who want an acceptable pace of play than not, but the reality is it won't change. JB feels entitled because, enter all the BS excuses you've already heard. I say kudos to those who have spoken up, hopefully Noren confronted him, in a professional way.

I would not play golf if it were always that slow....to me pace of play is Paramount, I'd rather play a average course with good pace then a dream course at 5-6 hrs. Every now and again OK, hell even 4.5 hours feels slow to me.

Weirfan haha, I was thinking, β€œhe’s going to be boiling behind me, I’ll pull iron at that distance” ( when all is working well). I was going to just 🀐, because I generally get pissed watching guys that can’t hit the ball 220 off the tee waiting to hit their layup in while the other group clears. I get annoyed waiting for the fairway to clear pretty often, which I don’t know why I wait, the likelihood of me hitting something IN a fairway is pretty low.

    rsvman I don't want to be behind the person who takes three minutes to key in four numbers on a keypad, and I sure as hell don't want to be behind the golfer who takes three extra minutes to hit a golf shot.

    I don't think that is a good comparison. Putting in the wrong pin# on a key pad won't cost $150k if you get it wrong. And as I keep saying this was for ONE shot not every shot of the round. JB is getting grilled for taking 3 extra minutes for one shot on a very important hole. I think we are beating a dead horse at this point.

      DC300

      Well , your fairways hit is better than Tiger and he waits πŸ˜‰

      Rickochet And as I keep saying this was for ONE shot not every shot of the round. JB is getting grilled for taking 3 extra minutes for one shot on a very important hole. I think we are beating a dead horse at this point

      He's getting grilled for the Coup De Grace but he started slowing down on the back 9 especially after he shit the bed on some iron shots and played his way out of it.
      Even Dottie Pepper politely commented that she JB for a long time and that he tends to get "fidgety" when things start going poorly and that was around the 15th hole I think.

        Spuzz He's getting grilled for the Coup De Grace but he started slowing down on the back 9 especially after he shit the bed on some iron shots and played his way out of it.
        Even Dottie Pepper politely commented that she JB for a long time and that he tends to get "fidgety" when things start going poorly and that was around the 15th hole I think.

        If he was playing too slow and fell behind he should have been notified by the officials. After filling his pants the pace of play was probably the last thing on his mind.

          Rickochet
          I agree but PGA Tour Officials do not enforce pace of play, ever, hence the shitstorm given the Euros in the field, and in contention.

          For the record, I don't give a shit, as they weren't holding me up.
          I change the channel when they start with their numerous practice swings and circling the globe (hole) before attempting a three foot straight putt.
          LOL

            Spuzz I agree but PGA Tour Officials do not enforce pace of play, ever, hence the shitstorm given the Euros in the field, and in contention.

            I have seen them "put people on the clock." It doesn't happen often but I have seen people given penalty strokes after playing too slow after being put on the clock. It wouldn't have mattered in this situation since it was the last hole.

              Rickochet
              Only once has the PGA assessed a penalty, IIRC.
              "On the clock" is a joke to them.
              Euro Tour does it more frequently, so those guys play faster.

              I have a feeling that JB probably should avoid considering playing any Euro tournaments unless he tasks up speed golf.

              I think the PGA should get their act together, maybe encourage and give players the green light to play READY golf.

              PA-PLAYA You either agree that J.B is a slow player or not.

              I think he is. What do you guys think? Yes or No?

              This thread isn't about whether he is slow or not. It is about what he did on hole #18 at the Farmers Insurance tourney.

                PA-PLAYA

                1. JB has a rep for being slow and showed his ass on Sunday
                2. He's not the only one on tour
                3. The tour is chicken shit and does nothing about it (mostly)
                4. These are just my opinions
                5. Rick is entitled to his opinion, even though he's wrong. πŸ˜πŸ˜‰

                Rickochet

                I respectfully disagree. Did he take more time than needed to execute his shot?

                Four+ minutes? Then to just lay up? Please tell me that this should be the norm that should simply be accepted.

                I cannot possibly agree. I'm not a huge Rickie Fowler fan, but it doesn't take him 4 minutes to go through his routine and execute a golf shot. I'll give him that.

                These slowpokes are killing the game. Hard to tune in when some of these guys make it a life-or-death situation over ever other shot.

                There's a reason why I didn't tune-in to the tournament on Sunday.

                I don't think I'm alone in my thinking.

                  PA-PLAYA

                  How many folks tuned in on Sunday?
                  How many of you guys watched the tournament on Sunday, and the following playoff Monday?

                  Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't watch any of the action this week. Nor did I feel compelled to watch the playoff on Monday. In fact - it never occurred to me that there was even a Monday playoff.

                  Netflix won over.

                  On a non-NFL weekend, at that.

                    PA-PLAYA

                    I watched Sunday from 6pm on and the Monday finish. Nearly fell asleep waiting on Holmes. 😜

                    PA-PLAYA I respectfully disagree. Did he take more time than needed to execute his shot?

                    Four+ minutes? Then to just lay up? Please tell me that this should be the norm that should simply be accepted.

                    It was not about time needed to execute the shot. It was about the decision process. And as I have posted in this thread many times IT WAS ABOUT ONE SHOT, not the whole round. And it added maybe 3 minutes to the round. If he had gone for it and dunked it in the pond it would have probably cost him $150K or more. JB is being bashed for taking an extra 3 minutes on an important shot decision.

                      Rickochet . JB is being bashed for taking an extra 3 minutes on an important shot decision.

                      Yep. Tough crowd here. πŸ˜‰