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  • JB Holmes - what would you have done?

LBlack14 maybe you should be more picky about the company you keep. I'd watch that for exactly 1 round and I'dve said something before that.

Group in front of me. I try real hard to NOT play golf with posers.

    sdandrea1 No, players should not be allowed to take 5 minutes to make a shot.

    It was one shot on the final hole, not the entire round. Earlier in the round there were multiple groups backed up on the 14th tee. I guess they needed to be fined too.

        Just a few weeks ago I think it was Sergio dicking around for probably 15 minutes trying to decide where to take a drop on one of the final holes with the stands around the hole and some rocks nearby.

          4 - 5 mins for one shot, that is insanely long, just do the math for an even par round....4.8 hours for 4 mins per shot to 6 hours for 5 mins per shot. Now I know it's not that much for every shot, but it's worth noting.....a shot clock is needed and imo it would have helped JB in this situation, the longer he waited the smaller his sack became. Thank gawd he's a good golfer, could you imagine playing with him shooting 90.....😱

            ode 4 - 5 mins for one shot, that is insanely long, just do the math for an even par round....4.8 hours for 4 mins per shot to 6 hours for 5 mins per shot.

            Repeat - This was for one shot on the final hole that meant a lot of money. He did not take 5 minutes for each shot for the entire round.

            I wonder how many of the commentators would have been whining if it had been Tiger taking 5 minutes instead of JB?

                Rickochet 😉, I would not care if it were for a reportedly fast or even regular speed player, but it's JB, who's got a rep for being slow....and to add insult to injury, his punk ass laid up. Who lays up with a chance, #JBdoes

                And re Tiger, none they all worship him, but he would have went for it at least, as bug of an asshat TW can be, he's got pelotas grandes!

                    A majority of these guys dick around and take too much time. J.B. especially. Jason Day is another 5-hour round guy.

                    I know these guys are competing for a lot of money, but it doesn't exactly make me interested to tune-in on a Sunday afternoon, not even when there's snow on the ground and nothing to do outside (unless it's a major). And even then I've got the DVR cooking, intentionally delay watching for a few hours so I can FFW through the ass-scratching, mindless chatter in the booth and overall silly bullcrap.

                    As to his decision to go for it or lay-up.... can't speak to that, because I didn't watch. So for me to be critical of anything other than his habitually slow-ass play would be improper, only to say that if it did take him 5 minutes to determine the triangulation of the moon, the incoming tides, and the planet's center-of-gravity put upon that specific parcel of land that he was on as he was about to play his next shot - it doesn't come as a shock.

                    He's one of the slowest players on tour. Notoriously slow.

                    I mean....how long does it take to make a decision as to whether to play for the cash (lay up) if you need
                    the money or go for the gold (fire at the green and get into the playoff).......really ? It is an easy decision
                    if you need the cash. 🤓

                      ode correct me if I'm wrong, but there's more on the line than just the paycheck after that round?

                          Eguller I mean....how long does it take to make a decision as to whether to play for the cash (lay up) if you need
                          the money or go for the gold (fire at the green and get into the playoff).......really ? It is an easy decision
                          if you need the cash. 🤓

                          I just read where the wait was timed at 4 minutes and 10 seconds. That is no time considering the situation. I think this is getting blown up far too much by the media. I am seeing lots of threads on the web that say, "JB takes 4:10 to lay up." How many would have posted, "JB takes 4:10 and goes for it"?

                            LBlack14 I'll answer the rhetorical question, yes😉 and it can go both ways, on the line after that week may be the simple truth of a tour pro in JB's position......which may well be that will be the only time he had a chance to win all year, we shall see!

                              No one made eagle on the 18th. JB wasn't in a great spot, and the wind was making it more difficult. Chances of eagle were very slim and he probably decided to take the increased paycheck and remove bogey from play.

                              I don't buy the "making a decision in the situation" story. 4+ minutes is way too long when there is no ruling present and you're away. He wasn't making a decision, he was trying to wait out the wind.

                              I take it all back, the final group took 6 hours to play, he's on pace by my previous calculations, lol, keep it up JB!

                              ode You're doing the math all wrong. It already takes about for hours to play, when guys are taking maybe a minute to think about each shot.
                              So really you would have to add three minutes for each shot. On a par 70 course, that's 210 minutes added to four hours.
                              So now the round is 7.5 hours.

                              Crap or get off the pot, as they used to say.

                                And he has 4 pga tour wins and 21 mil in career warnings and he's worried about a paycheck....hmmmmm, nahhhhh!

                                Edit, career warnings, damn autocorrect, should say earnings!

                                Rickochet If he were put on the clock, he would have 40 seconds to play the shot. He is always painfully slow but 4.1 minutes is ridiculous and unfair to the other players and the fans.

                                  In situations where a player is taking too much time his playing partners should go ahead and hit their shot. In this case Noren should've signaled to Holmes that he would go ahead and hit his shot. If I was Noren that's what I would've done. Noren ended up hitting a good shot, but having to stand their and wait close to 5 minutes could be a disruption for anyone.

                                    Easy for me to say, I would have gone for it. I always do and that is why I am not a PGA player, well that and I suck, but that’s part of it!