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Eguller It was brushed aside about 3 weeks after it occurred when our government looked into it, declared it was a bunch of radicals that weren't tied to the Saudi government, and then told us not to go about willy-nilly persecuting people that were religiously or culturally affiliated with them because they are a people and religion of peace. I won't blame protestors if they don't believe or trust our government, but the players are not going against their own country via their participation in LIV (unless the shadow government everyone is talking about is the PGA Tour).

      johnnydoom It was brushed aside about 3 weeks after it occurred when our government looked into it, declared it was a bunch of radicals that weren't tied to the Saudi government,

      My recollection is different - Afghanistan and Iraq come to mind. Money doesn't talk, it yells.

          Eguller My recollection is different - Afghanistan and Iraq come to mind

          Not different. My recollection is the same as yours, but AFAIK, LIV is not being funded by entities from either of those two countries. The leader of Iraq and thousands of his supporters were killed with the blessing of one of our presidents, and the leader of the radicals in Afghanistan and hundreds of his followers were killed with the blessing of several of our presidents. I wouldn't say the loss of 3000 Americans was brushed aside. I might be inclined to say the retaliation may have been misdirected if you twist my arm, but I would be in opposition to the official stance of my country if I were to say that.

              johnnydoom but I would be in opposition to the official stance of my country if I were to say that.

              You'd be far back in that line. 😉
              Several states over maybe.

                Like we’ve all seen already, some of the PGA Tour sponsors take Saudi money so where are these protestors at all these other events?

                  Eguller So these people, these folks alone, know why the LIV was started. Interesting and false of course. If folks are so against this, then nationalize the PGA Tour and make it truly a US thing.

                    johnnydoom I might be inclined to say the retaliation may have been misdirected if you twist my arm

                    That was my point. Hit where they trained, etc. but…..

                        Eguller I don't necessarily disagree with you on the policy or actions. I just disagree with anyone saying the LIV players are putting money before country when their country (no matter which one they are actually from) doesn't have any official beef with the Saudis. You can't be betraying your country when your country's official stance is that the Saudi regime is not culpable. You could be betraying someone's personal belief or principal, but that is an individual thing and not tied to the national interest projected by the elected leaders.

                            Eguller The group, 9/11 Families United

                            I haven't done any searches, but when did this group come into existence? Surely, it must have been after the LIV tournaments held inside the U.S., as I never heard of them til this thread.

                            Be very curious to see who funds this group. And their attachments to the PGA. Just a 'guess'. 🤔 "Dark money".

                                Par4QC Surely, it must have been after the LIV tournaments held inside the U.S.

                                Nope. They protested earlier at Bedminster. They've been around a while from all I can tell - sponsoring
                                legislation for disclosure, etc. Seems to be made up of survivors, friends, family and so on. Can't find anything about their finances however. ??

                                    Eguller With all the millions they each got from the deaths, it could well be totally self funded, but I highly doubt it when you can get Congress to enact things. They typically really have no cares for Joe Public, no matter what happened to them.
                                    And to be sure, the founder is getting fat, off those millions.

                                      Eguller There is more than one group. 9/11 United and 9/11 Justice groups (most in the news) are anonymously funded. Love when they hide, but clearly have funding as one group (9/11 Justice Group) spent $230K on TV ads.

                                      Hard to tell if these guys are more pissed at Trump golf course supporting or the Saudis.

                                          Subsonic Copy, bet not a single one joined a service to defend the US from this evil nation (kingdom). Protesting a golf event works. Perhaps they should protest at the next event held in Saudi Arabia. Not a fan of SA, but I simply elect to not watch LIV, or PGA Tour now based on their reactions. Always vote with my dollars.

                                              Just want to add my two cents on any 9-11 families protesting LIV players in the Masters.

                                              Good for them. 👏👏👏 Something we should celebrate. Want a glimpse of the alternative. Look to Russia and Iran.

                                              Russia is imprisoning protesters and Iran is publicly hanging protesters.

                                                Sneakylong Russia is imprisoning protesters and Iran is publicly hanging protesters.

                                                Are those bad things? We send people to prison for writing bad checks. Sometimes, for life!! 1 of just many examples of our stupid systems.

                                                And, what are protestors? What do they do?

                                                We all read/watch/listen to the news. Do they think we do not know what is going on/has gone on in our country?
                                                In 20+ years what have they done for the good of our lives?

                                                Thus, they are worthless & troublesome. And the last part costs us all, not just the country. No country needs protestors; people are not stupid, as a whole.
                                                So, hang 'em!!
                                                jmo😲😉