LIV Players and Participation in The Masters Golf Tournament

Weirfan · 2022-12-20T18:36:42+00:00

LIV players will be allowed to compete if meet the qualification criteria.

Par4QC

johnnydoom and I'm sure they are being compensated in some way for it.

There's the nutshell!!
Plus, they are nothing more than a bunch of lazy bastards that do not want to work.

Yes, I hate these types of people.

Eguller

Par4QC

Interesting to check the financing, if there is any. Paid protesters or what ?

How long will it be before the 3000+ US citizens murdered, mostly by Saudi nationals, will be brushed aside as Rex mentioned ? Or has that already happened ?

johnnydoom

Eguller It was brushed aside about 3 weeks after it occurred when our government looked into it, declared it was a bunch of radicals that weren't tied to the Saudi government, and then told us not to go about willy-nilly persecuting people that were religiously or culturally affiliated with them because they are a people and religion of peace. I won't blame protestors if they don't believe or trust our government, but the players are not going against their own country via their participation in LIV (unless the shadow government everyone is talking about is the PGA Tour).

garyt1957

Eguller How long will it be before the 3000+ US citizens murdered, mostly by Saudi nationals

Maybe I'm just not remembering but is there ANY evidence that the Saudi state was involved in 911 and not just some of their citizens? I for one would not want to be held responsible for all the terrible things lone wolf Americans did all over the world.
And if there was proof we should have bombed the shit out of them and worrying about something as trivial as LIV wouldn't be an issue.

sdandrea1

I've always liked to think of sports competition as free if political implications. Like in the Olympics, everyone shows up and we root for our guys. Maybe we can have a little side "Olympics" and hope the LIV guys go down hard. That being said, Rory and JT have been a couple of crybabies. Hmmmmm....

garyt1957

sdandrea1 free if political implications. Like in the Olympics,

Nothing has been more political than the Olympics through the years

Eguller

johnnydoom It was brushed aside about 3 weeks after it occurred when our government looked into it, declared it was a bunch of radicals that weren't tied to the Saudi government,

My recollection is different - Afghanistan and Iraq come to mind. Money doesn't talk, it yells.

johnnydoom

Eguller My recollection is different - Afghanistan and Iraq come to mind

Not different. My recollection is the same as yours, but AFAIK, LIV is not being funded by entities from either of those two countries. The leader of Iraq and thousands of his supporters were killed with the blessing of one of our presidents, and the leader of the radicals in Afghanistan and hundreds of his followers were killed with the blessing of several of our presidents. I wouldn't say the loss of 3000 Americans was brushed aside. I might be inclined to say the retaliation may have been misdirected if you twist my arm, but I would be in opposition to the official stance of my country if I were to say that.

Par4QC

johnnydoom but I would be in opposition to the official stance of my country if I were to say that.

You'd be far back in that line. 😉
Several states over maybe.

Eguller

johnnydoom I might be inclined to say the retaliation may have been misdirected if you twist my arm

That was my point. Hit where they trained, etc. but…..

Typhoon

Like we’ve all seen already, some of the PGA Tour sponsors take Saudi money so where are these protestors at all these other events?

rsvman2

Typhoon Exactly. Not to mention a fair number of large corporations. But no protests, as far as I can tell.

Bravopilot

Eguller So these people, these folks alone, know why the LIV was started. Interesting and false of course. If folks are so against this, then nationalize the PGA Tour and make it truly a US thing.

johnnydoom

Eguller I don't necessarily disagree with you on the policy or actions. I just disagree with anyone saying the LIV players are putting money before country when their country (no matter which one they are actually from) doesn't have any official beef with the Saudis. You can't be betraying your country when your country's official stance is that the Saudi regime is not culpable. You could be betraying someone's personal belief or principal, but that is an individual thing and not tied to the national interest projected by the elected leaders.

garyt1957

johnnydoom Well said

Par4QC

Eguller The group, 9/11 Families United

I haven't done any searches, but when did this group come into existence? Surely, it must have been after the LIV tournaments held inside the U.S., as I never heard of them til this thread.

Be very curious to see who funds this group. And their attachments to the PGA. Just a 'guess'. 🤔 "Dark money".

Eguller

Par4QC Surely, it must have been after the LIV tournaments held inside the U.S.

Nope. They protested earlier at Bedminster. They've been around a while from all I can tell - sponsoring
legislation for disclosure, etc. Seems to be made up of survivors, friends, family and so on. Can't find anything about their finances however. ??

Par4QC

Eguller With all the millions they each got from the deaths, it could well be totally self funded, but I highly doubt it when you can get Congress to enact things. They typically really have no cares for Joe Public, no matter what happened to them.
And to be sure, the founder is getting fat, off those millions.

Bravopilot

Eguller There is more than one group. 9/11 United and 9/11 Justice groups (most in the news) are anonymously funded. Love when they hide, but clearly have funding as one group (9/11 Justice Group) spent $230K on TV ads.

Hard to tell if these guys are more pissed at Trump golf course supporting or the Saudis.

Sneakylong

Every sport needs Heroes and Villains. lol Classic from The Beach Boys.

johnnydoom

Bravopilot Hard to tell

I'm biased, but I don't think it is too hard to tell.

Subsonic

Just Bread and Circus. Keep The Mob occupied, so they won't see what is really happening.

Bravopilot

Subsonic Copy, bet not a single one joined a service to defend the US from this evil nation (kingdom). Protesting a golf event works. Perhaps they should protest at the next event held in Saudi Arabia. Not a fan of SA, but I simply elect to not watch LIV, or PGA Tour now based on their reactions. Always vote with my dollars.

Eguller

Bravopilot Always vote with my dollars.

Capitalism at work. 👍

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