Manuel De La Torre Swing
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sdandrea1 It seems natural/simple. Kinda reminds me of Annika Sorenstam.
Annika Sorenstam took lessons from Bill Owens as a youngster. Annika and Charlotta were great young tennis players and had to choose golf over tennis. Racquet sports and club focused golf swings much the same.
See the correlation between all of the club focused swings?
Set up and address.
scotts33 Racquet sports and club focused golf swings much the same
Good comparison Scott.....I'll have to remember that when I try to help my 17 year
old grandson. He just took up golf in the last year or two and tends to hang back on his rear foot. He's a
good tennis player (plays 1st or 2nd singles on his HS team), but hasn't learned to get the weight back over
to his front foot on the golf course yet.....
fatshot Good comparison Scott.....I'll have to remember that when I try to help my 17 year
old grandson. He just took up golf in the last year or two and tends to hang back on his rear foot. He's a
good tennis player (plays 1st or 2nd singles on his HS team), but hasn't learned to get the weight back over
to his front foot on the golf course yet.....
Here ya go fatshot. Some tennis racquet comparisons. Any racquet will do.
18 holes today with commitment to MDLT no matter what happens. Shot 77 with 12 GIRs. 12 is HIGH for me. I had way too many putts today but had 2 birdies from well-struck approach shots. This concept is an epiphany game-changing thing for me. I'm using stock steel in the IsI Nickel irons (7, 8, 9, W, S2, S3). Graphite in everything else, but I'm NOT experiencing the "anvil" feeling I used to get with heavy steel shafts. Gotta be the path I'm in. I don't think I'll be considering going to mid irons because my Cally hybrids are excellent for those shots. I didn't even use practice swings today.....just aligned the club face to the target, centered set up, swing the arms/club over the right shoulder, down the target line, over the left shoulder. Confidence is soaring right now. I realize there will be backups, hiccups, and fuckups, but this swing is so simple, it's easy to restudy, re-read, re-watch etc., and get back in synch (I hope). Team got 4th today, but it wasn't my fault!
sdandrea1 This concept is an epiphany game-changing thing for me.
Happy to hear this Steve. Its a swing "feel" thing that Manuel can instill is what I have found for the majority and the centered swing makes sense to find the swing bottom consistency that so many can not find no matter how hard they keep trying and grinding.
sdandrea1 I didn't even use practice swings today.....just aligned the club face to the target, centered set up, swing the arms/club over the right shoulder, down the target line, over the left shoulder
Yeah practice swings are a killer using MDLT. You are grasping the targeting aspect.
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sdandrea1
Steve,
Are you placing the driver dead center in your stance? Or is the ball in the middle of your stance? There is a difference. Do you find yourself able to draw the ball easier or just hitting it straighter?
Mike
Ball in middle. No draws for me yet. Straight is EZ tho. 
scotts33 The baseball hitting examples pictured above are exactly why golfers who are on their back foot like baseball players hit fat shots and can't swing/move their weight on to their front side. Golf IMO is a front foot oriented swing. Baseball is not.
Former baseball player here (played in college and through my late 20s). Your quote above is me in a nutshell. I “load” my weight back, but don’t get it forward. I’ve got good hand-eye so I’ve been mostly able to cut out the fats by becoming more of a sweeper/picker which leads to a lot of thins. I’ve just started exploring this thread but a few hands lead clubless swings in the living room feel markedly different than trying to keep a stiff left arm through the backswing. My legs/body react totally differently; I can feel a turn (both back and forward) instead of a slide on the way back and trying to fight forward.
Excited to lean more!
sdandrea1 No weight loading on either side nor any thinking or effort to weight transfer. I kind of "just stand there and naturally swing".
Love it. I don’t have time to play much, let alone practice. The last thing I want/need is to be thinking about x y and z every swing. I just wanna go out and play and have a reasonable expectation that I’ll make decent contact most of the time and send the ball in my general intended direction. Hopefully going down this track will gets to my goal of bogey golf!
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Jelopster Over the decades it has always amazed me that there are golf teachers out there that teach by hitting different positions. You know the ones... They draw red lines through a player's shoulder to the ball, they draw a red line showing club angle, blah, blah, blah.
A person spending hundreds of dollars to get better, they have no clue if they are where the "pro" wants them to be in their swing.
They hit a great ball, Mick Jagger walk around, that little Slingblade sound in their head going, "mmm hmm", " I must have got that one right. They don't KNOW, they just GUESS that they must have hit every position dead on.
It's ridiculous. Ball Flight Laws tell you everything and swing can literally be fixed over the phone.