Manuel De La Torre Swing
Playing today, I was "thinking" MLTD concepts. Not sure that I'm actually embracing the mechanics, but Trish's videos helped. The centered concept and target-focus led to some very solid turf shots. I can tell it's an "arms" swing because my back is happy.
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scotts33 What were the take aways pro's/con's and is MDLT a concept that you can stay the course?
Bad habits are hard to break. In an effort to get my weight to the target side, I tend to sway laterally when I'm not focused on centering. Gotta just think about "right shoulder, left shoulder, down the target line. This promotes centered vs swaying.
I am definitely going to stay the course with MDLT for the irons through next season. Like where it has started and want to see where it keeps going.
sdandrea1 Gotta just think about "right shoulder, left shoulder, down the target line
Manuel is think hands back swing (but do not become a wrist roller-take away with hands have club face neutral to closed not open). Think upper arm elbow to shoulder socket thru to the forward swing (upper arm bicep).
You intention eventually will stop a lot of swaying as you will see impact improve unconsciously. If you start consciously working on swaying that is a body focused swing which is not a centered club focused Jones/De La Torre concept.
Subsonic I am definitely going to stay the course with MDLT for the irons through next season. Like where it has started and want to see where it keeps going.
Once you use the centered club focused same technique with driver that club will come around. If you use two different swings longer clubs will always be an issue IMO.
scotts33 . If you start consciously working on swaying that is a body focused swing which is not a centered club focused
Yep, agree. I'm only focusing on the hands& arms over right shoulder back thru target line to left shoulder. The result is no swaying. I did notice that my biceps and triceps are more involved. I can actually feel it. Club is on a better path too. Works with the driver too!
sdandrea1 Yep, agree. I'm only focusing on the hands& arms over right shoulder back thru target line to left shoulder. The result is no swaying. I did notice that my biceps and triceps are more involved. I can actually feel it. Club is on a better path too. Works with the driver too!
ALL good! What happens unconsciously is that your arms will become closer together like the drill that holds a ball between your arms so they don't get separated. Your golf swing will be more one piece and together.
Sounds like you are getting it! 
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sdandrea1 It seems natural/simple. Kinda reminds me of Annika Sorenstam.
Annika Sorenstam took lessons from Bill Owens as a youngster. Annika and Charlotta were great young tennis players and had to choose golf over tennis. Racquet sports and club focused golf swings much the same.
See the correlation between all of the club focused swings?
Set up and address.
scotts33 Racquet sports and club focused golf swings much the same
Good comparison Scott.....I'll have to remember that when I try to help my 17 year
old grandson. He just took up golf in the last year or two and tends to hang back on his rear foot. He's a
good tennis player (plays 1st or 2nd singles on his HS team), but hasn't learned to get the weight back over
to his front foot on the golf course yet.....
fatshot Good comparison Scott.....I'll have to remember that when I try to help my 17 year
old grandson. He just took up golf in the last year or two and tends to hang back on his rear foot. He's a
good tennis player (plays 1st or 2nd singles on his HS team), but hasn't learned to get the weight back over
to his front foot on the golf course yet.....
Here ya go fatshot. Some tennis racquet comparisons. Any racquet will do.
18 holes today with commitment to MDLT no matter what happens. Shot 77 with 12 GIRs. 12 is HIGH for me. I had way too many putts today but had 2 birdies from well-struck approach shots. This concept is an epiphany game-changing thing for me. I'm using stock steel in the IsI Nickel irons (7, 8, 9, W, S2, S3). Graphite in everything else, but I'm NOT experiencing the "anvil" feeling I used to get with heavy steel shafts. Gotta be the path I'm in. I don't think I'll be considering going to mid irons because my Cally hybrids are excellent for those shots. I didn't even use practice swings today.....just aligned the club face to the target, centered set up, swing the arms/club over the right shoulder, down the target line, over the left shoulder. Confidence is soaring right now. I realize there will be backups, hiccups, and fuckups, but this swing is so simple, it's easy to restudy, re-read, re-watch etc., and get back in synch (I hope). Team got 4th today, but it wasn't my fault!
sdandrea1 This concept is an epiphany game-changing thing for me.
Happy to hear this Steve. Its a swing "feel" thing that Manuel can instill is what I have found for the majority and the centered swing makes sense to find the swing bottom consistency that so many can not find no matter how hard they keep trying and grinding.
sdandrea1 I didn't even use practice swings today.....just aligned the club face to the target, centered set up, swing the arms/club over the right shoulder, down the target line, over the left shoulder
Yeah practice swings are a killer using MDLT. You are grasping the targeting aspect.