Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

Spuzz

Par4QC If I was a LIVer, I'd be laying it on just to see the consequences. 😄

LOL
I hope Pat Reed shows up in his Captain America gear, with LIV stickers all over it.

Pelley asked them not to wear LIV logos as a favour, (which is against the LIV contracts they signed) after he banned them from any ProAms and Feature Groups etc.
Not sure what world these Tour Executive twats are living in.

wishbone

One of the LIV'ers should have Norman caddy for him....hopefully someone playing with Rory or JT

Spuzz

wishbone Norman caddy for him....hopefully someone playing with Rory or JT

The caddie should have a laminated list of all Norman's wins and hang it on the bag, then say out loud to the player:
"Remember that shot Greg hit on hole "insert hole" at the "insert tourney name" that sealed the win there?
That's what you hit here"
Do that all day long. Different tourney for each hole. Won't run out of holes. lol

CallMeAl

Spuzz

I saw that. They even post the LIV logo as a header...

Stu1961

PA-PLAYA
Imagine working for an immensely profitable business, a veritable juggernaut, adding 350 to 400 million per year into its own coffers off the back of your work/talent. Really? How big does the PGA need to be? How many billion?

The more I read about the suits being brought against the PGA … the more I want to see it go, publicly, to court. It could get interesting - if not eye-opening.

Mattyv

Stu1961

If you are using this logic, I am guessing you must live off your own land, make all your own goods, refine your own gas from your own oil rig, etc..

Stu1961

Spuzz
Until about an hour ago, I thought the PGA goon tactics were limited to just threatening suspension to players teeing it up in LIV … now I’m reading that, per LIV suits, the threats extended to player sponsors, vendors, and agents too. Not a good look if proven.

Eguller

What we have are two gigantic egos mudslinging at each other. Reminds me of a grade school squabble -
"mommy, mommy...it's his fault, make him stop" 🙄

Spuzz

Eguller What we have are two gigantic egos mudslinging at each other

There's a lot more mud slinging from one side and that side should be the adult in the room and it is not.
I hope they get to stand in the corner until they behave
or maybe sit on a stool with a Dunce Cap like real old school.

Par4QC

Mattyv I've done all that. Except the part of gas refining. Had to steal it. But, thats not about golf. Nor does it define me. 😅

Subsonic

PA-PLAYA Seems like a crap comparison to me, but to each his own.

PA-PLAYA

"If you are talking about World Ranking Points, I agree with you, as long as LIV is playing 54 hole events."

Yep, that's my point. Perhaps it's not a great analogy, but I think it was good enough for you to see the angle I was taking. Thank you for helping me to explain it better.

Par4QC

PA-PLAYA World ranking points.....do not they award them at the PGA match play events also? Along with FedEx Cup points. Limited fields/limited play. And The Sentry in Hawaii is winners only, yet get points/ranking.
I really don't know, have to look it up somewhere.

garyt1957

PA-PLAYA "If you are talking about World Ranking Points, I agree with you, as long as LIV is playing 54 hole events."

I really don't see how 54 holes are any less meaningless than 72 holes. Hell, it could be harder to win or finish high with only 54 holes, not enough time to come back. You better come out firing. Baseball went from 9 inning games to 7 inning games for doubleheaders did that make those games not count? So long as you know how long a game or tournament is before it starts, who cares?

Stu1961

Par4QC
Limited field events just need to be approved by the governing bodies to garner points.

Interestingly, I could not find anything in there about 54 hole rain shortened event points … just when only 36 holes are played - then, points still rewarded but are reduced by 75%. I’m thinking the 54 hole events may be awarded full points?

PA-PLAYA

Par4QC

I used to know. But honestly I'm not sure.

I know that in the past when the PGA Tour would lure guys away from the European Tour, the European Tour required their members to play a certain number of Euro Tour events to maintain membership, to qualify for Order of Merit, to qualify for Ryder Cup, etc. They did this to give their players an incentive to stay active on their tour. In other words, they had to make a choice.

I really don't see this situation all that differently. But that's just my take.

The LIV, to me, is all about guys not having to play in many events and still make tens upon tens of millions of dollars. They've made their decision. The money is more important. I don't blame any of them. I'd probably be the same way.

But it just seems a bit pathetic that they'd bellyache about not qualifying for majors and world ranking points. Because clearly that wasn't more important than the money. Because if it was - they wouldn't have left.

It is what it is. And some of those guys who've made their beds don't like that it is what it is.

Spuzz

Stu1961 Limited field events just need to be approved by the governing bodies to garner points.

That is how Tiger's 30 man invite only field got points.

Spuzz

PA-PLAYA he European Tour required their members to play a certain number of Euro Tour events to maintain membership,

I believe they reduced that requirement to a measely 4 events, of their choosing.

Par4QC

PA-PLAYA The LIV, to me, is all about guys not having to play in many events and still make tens upon tens of millions of dollars. They've made their decision. The money is more important. I don't blame any of them. I'd probably be the same way.

But it just seems a bit pathetic that they'd bellyache about not qualifying for majors and world ranking points. Because clearly that wasn't more important than the money. Because if it was - they wouldn't have left.

I do agree with all that. But imo, they do seem to have a valid point about the WR, when the whole situation surrounding the way they are awarded has been. Limited fields, limited play is not a valid reason for denial.
They are side-stepping because the PGA & DP are not recognizing LIV tour/players. Again, I don't even know who awards the rankings.

I'm pissed. I've broke 80 several times and still am not ranked anywhere. Shit. FML

Spuzz

PA-PLAYA But it just seems a bit pathetic that they'd bellyache about not qualifying for majors

I think since the Majors are not under Monahan's thumb. that most of the bitching is about the strong arm tactics and bullying he is doing behind the scenes to get the majors outfits to tow the line. It's not his concern.
What Major executive committee wants a half assed field?
I guess we'll find out who has the balls to stand up for their event or not.

PA-PLAYA

garyt1957

Over the course of 72 holes, it just seems more reasonable to me that the more talented players finish in the money that week, versus 54 holes. It could also be argued that the cut line is also a form of a tournament, adding its own element of pressure.

I just see it differently I guess.

garyt1957

PA-PLAYA Over the course of 72 holes, it just seems more reasonable to me that the more talented players finish in the money that week, versus 54 holes. It could also be argued that the cut line is also a form of a tournament, adding its own element of pressure.

Why not make them 90 holes then? The only reason 72 holes seems important is because that's the way it's always been. Just like whoever decided 18 holes was a "round"

Par4QC

PA-PLAYA the more talented players finish in the money that week,

Let's just say the players that played the course best for 4 days. I've seen some low tiered players grab some big cash/huge tournaments through the years, and never hear of them again. I've also seen TW miss several cuts. Along with Rory, JT, etc..

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