I think my Dad’s sage advice applies. Never judge a man till you have walked a mile in their shoes.

These guys are playing another tour. Nothing more, nothing less. Trust the story and see how it plays out.

    Sneakylong He insinuated he had signed a contract. He specifically said the captain is the only one who signs a contract.

    My reference is to a LIV contract. He was signed to the RC contract, and had been doing the job already.

    It was nothing more than the PGA firing the European RC captain; plain and simple. Monahan=Trump on 1/6=Pied Piper.
    Simple connections. Simple(ton) politics.

      Par4QC

      https://www.rydercup.com/about-us

      The PGA who fired Stenson? The PGA Tour (Monahan) has nothing to do with the Ryder Cup. It’s the PGA of America that runs the U.S. Ryder Cup.

      The European Ryder Cup is run by the different European golf entities listed in the link I provided. It makes perfect sense that both Ryder Cup powers that be would not want anything to do with LIV.

      LIV is the antithesis of everything the Ryder Cup stands for.

        Sneakylong No it’s not. Stop labeling and virtue shaming.

        Next thing you we be quoting Truth, Justice and the American way.

          Subsonic

          Click on the link I provided in response to it being political. The PGA Tour is lobbying Congress and the Whitehouse. That’s political. One of the reasons LIV is so controversial is because of the Saudi’s record on human rights. That’s political.

          Now, some will put their heads in the sand and deny the obvious. But this issue goes beyond sports and became political from the get go.

          Lobbying in Washington = Political
          Human Rights = Political

          So it goes way beyond some players just playing on another Tour. But if that’s the way you look at it fine. But don’t tell me the sky is green.😉

          The Ryder Cup was never about money. LIV is about nothing but money.

          And isn’t it virtue signaling? Never heard of virtue shaming. 😕

            Sneakylong

            “ this is the toughest one to swallow because Stenson effectively admitted that the money – a reported $40 million up front – is worth more than his legacy and the prestige of being captain for the one event where money is never the concern.”

            Don’t know how it would be tough to swallow. $40 million is worth way more than any association anyone could have with the Ryder Cup. 😃

              johnnydoom

              Not sure they all feel that way. Money comes and goes, but legacies last forever.

              Nobody remembers how much money athletes made in the long run. It’s all relative to the time they lived in. But they know how many championships etc. they won.

              PGA Tour players are remembered for Majors primarily, tournaments won and Ryder Cup records are talked about as well.

              If you read the article Stenson was a victim of a ponzi scheme by his sponsor Stanford Financial back in 2009. So he may have been an easy target.

                Sneakylong

                I was kidding. There has been some compelling viewing in majors this year. I actually kind of enjoyed watching the most recent LIV event.

                  Sneakylong Yeah, that’s what I meant. The Majors have been compelling viewing.

                  Without a doubt! My other comment was my way of saying that the politics and other issues regarding these two parties is way more prominent in the media than their own events.

                  Sneakylong I am not talking about the political crap.

                  Keep lying to yourself if you think the Ryder Cup was never about money. It is where it is today because it was made into a spectacle for money. If you want to see pure sport golf go watch an amateur event.

                  Thank you for correcting me on the virtue signaling. I am a bit foggy at the moment. You are much more intelligent than most of the posters in this thread, so I appreciate your correction. You are so smart in some ways, but so obtuse in others. I am grateful for my simple mind for it allows me to understand simple things. Unfortunately, people with your intelligence never get to receive this blessing.

                  The only legacy I need to worry about is the one looking back at me in the mirror.

                    Sneakylong legacies last forever.

                    Nobody but his family will remember him for more than a year or two after he dies unless he does something to change the world between now and then. He’s a golfer and that is his legacy. He’ll appear in lists of major champions when people look that up and that will be his enduring legacy. Nobody in the future will care to remember what he did or didn’t do for the Ryder Cup. His golf legacy is valued at $40 mil. Nobody made him a counter offer for his humanitarian legacy.

                    Brian Barnes once beat Jack Nicklaus twice in one day in Ryder Cup competition. Some old Ryder Cup fans and older fans of European golf might remember him. I doubt any casual golfer under 40 has any idea who he was. He has a fine legacy that will very quickly be forgotten by the world.