Sneakylong And how was that? He was Captain until they terminated him. He did nothing until after that was done, and had fully intended to fulfill his obligations, even if joining LIV.

I don't think you are reading/seeing anything except what you want to read/see. Quit being so political. If you cannot be, then don't post it here. We are all reading/seeing EVERYTHING. From both sides.....and yes, there are 2 of them. So far.
You could never be 'like Steve'. A Mediator.

I see the PGA's point. I see the LIV player's points. And whether people like you want to believe it or not, there is a successful middle ground that would benefit both sides.

I also see the hate coming from the Political people. BTW. šŸ˜

      sdandrea1. DJ is still very good. Prime? Probably not but still a force. Bryson is still in his prime if he gets over his injuries. He's sub 30.

        Par4QC

        He insinuated he had signed a contract. He specifically said the captain is the only one who signs a contract.

        Either way, whether he signed or not heā€™s not in compliance with the terms to be captain. Thus he got the boot.

        This is cut and dry. Too political for ya?šŸ˜ How about you have your opinion and donā€™t tell me what my opinion should be.

        I donā€™t see both sides to this at all. In case you canā€™t tell. And just a hint. The Saudiā€™s financing LIV is political. šŸ˜‰

        https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/21/inside-the-pga-tours-lobbying-effort-against-saudi-funded-liv-golf.html

            I think my Dadā€™s sage advice applies. Never judge a man till you have walked a mile in their shoes.

            These guys are playing another tour. Nothing more, nothing less. Trust the story and see how it plays out.

              Sneakylong He insinuated he had signed a contract. He specifically said the captain is the only one who signs a contract.

              My reference is to a LIV contract. He was signed to the RC contract, and had been doing the job already.

              It was nothing more than the PGA firing the European RC captain; plain and simple. Monahan=Trump on 1/6=Pied Piper.
              Simple connections. Simple(ton) politics.

                  Par4QC

                  https://www.rydercup.com/about-us

                  The PGA who fired Stenson? The PGA Tour (Monahan) has nothing to do with the Ryder Cup. Itā€™s the PGA of America that runs the U.S. Ryder Cup.

                  The European Ryder Cup is run by the different European golf entities listed in the link I provided. It makes perfect sense that both Ryder Cup powers that be would not want anything to do with LIV.

                  LIV is the antithesis of everything the Ryder Cup stands for.

                      Sneakylong No itā€™s not. Stop labeling and virtue shaming.

                      Next thing you we be quoting Truth, Justice and the American way.

                          Subsonic

                          Click on the link I provided in response to it being political. The PGA Tour is lobbying Congress and the Whitehouse. Thatā€™s political. One of the reasons LIV is so controversial is because of the Saudiā€™s record on human rights. Thatā€™s political.

                          Now, some will put their heads in the sand and deny the obvious. But this issue goes beyond sports and became political from the get go.

                          Lobbying in Washington = Political
                          Human Rights = Political

                          So it goes way beyond some players just playing on another Tour. But if thatā€™s the way you look at it fine. But donā€™t tell me the sky is green.šŸ˜‰

                          The Ryder Cup was never about money. LIV is about nothing but money.

                          And isnā€™t it virtue signaling? Never heard of virtue shaming. šŸ˜•

                              Sneakylong

                              ā€œ this is the toughest one to swallow because Stenson effectively admitted that the money ā€“ a reported $40 million up front ā€“ is worth more than his legacy and the prestige of being captain for the one event where money is never the concern.ā€

                              Donā€™t know how it would be tough to swallow. $40 million is worth way more than any association anyone could have with the Ryder Cup. šŸ˜ƒ

                                  johnnydoom

                                  Not sure they all feel that way. Money comes and goes, but legacies last forever.

                                  Nobody remembers how much money athletes made in the long run. Itā€™s all relative to the time they lived in. But they know how many championships etc. they won.

                                  PGA Tour players are remembered for Majors primarily, tournaments won and Ryder Cup records are talked about as well.

                                  If you read the article Stenson was a victim of a ponzi scheme by his sponsor Stanford Financial back in 2009. So he may have been an easy target.

                                      Sneakylong

                                      I was kidding. There has been some compelling viewing in majors this year. I actually kind of enjoyed watching the most recent LIV event.

                                          Sneakylong Yeah, thatā€™s what I meant. The Majors have been compelling viewing.

                                          Without a doubt! My other comment was my way of saying that the politics and other issues regarding these two parties is way more prominent in the media than their own events.

                                            Sneakylong I am not talking about the political crap.

                                            Keep lying to yourself if you think the Ryder Cup was never about money. It is where it is today because it was made into a spectacle for money. If you want to see pure sport golf go watch an amateur event.

                                            Thank you for correcting me on the virtue signaling. I am a bit foggy at the moment. You are much more intelligent than most of the posters in this thread, so I appreciate your correction. You are so smart in some ways, but so obtuse in others. I am grateful for my simple mind for it allows me to understand simple things. Unfortunately, people with your intelligence never get to receive this blessing.

                                            The only legacy I need to worry about is the one looking back at me in the mirror.