ode I don't know if you've watched any of the events the LIV players have been in (non LIV events)...but my small sample size wise that there seems to be very little showing of LIV players, but maybe I'm reading into it 🤔. With there being so much coverage of The Open, it should be clear if that's the case!

Well, other than Dj and Reed how many really top notch players did the LIV get? None of them were at the top of their game before jumping. Plus I'm sure all the controversy is distracting. I could be wrong but most of these guys are pretty competitive I doubt they'll just quit trying. But there's plenty of guys in other sports who signed big multi year deals and just cruised through those years

    garyt1957 I doubt they'll just quit trying

    Like every other main sport, the stars don't always get paid for how they are performing at present.
    Most of them get paid for what they have done in the past and are "worth" now. Some get paid on potential right off, but those cases are not frequent.
    LIV is the answer to that equation, for them. If they are pros, they will continue to put in their best efforts to perform.
    It's up to the GM's to figure out which ones will start coasting, or are coasting, and cut them. Since we don't know what exactly the LIV contracts entail, it's all speculation and most of it drummed up by PGA shills to demonize the LIV players.
    Tiger's presser was no different than all the rest. Just baseless and clueless speculation for the sole purpose of trying to put down the competition and keep the monopoly going.

    The Tour guarantees nothing, other than if you qualify and PAY the entry fees, you get a spot and two rounds to try and qualify for two more rounds and a paycheque. They actually do not guarantee the competition in those events.
    (Special events excluded of course, where the peons are told to stay home)
    Derogatory statements aimed at guys who have sacrificed and built the Tours up over 20 years, who now want to get (over) paid for their services reek of jealousy, bitterness, underappreciation and thanklessness (among others) of those that came before them.

    ode With there being so much coverage of The Open, it should be clear if that's the case!

    Quick look shows lots of LIV names starting out first thing, so will be done before anybody is out of bed tomorrow.
    lol
    Only DJ is in prime time.

      Spuzz he was the only LIV player I remember seeing at that charity event in Scotland......I think they showed him putting, once.

      Spuzz

      Yup, but thats Tiger's just like the WGC no cut limited fields.

      Im sure the coversation this week will be interesting, not that we will hear much of it.

      Check R & A's Slumbers presser if you'd like to hear this issue from the source. Bright guy.

      darpar So what happens with LIV when the Saudi's finally come to their
      senses and figure their RoR doesn't exist?
      I give this charade 2 years max!

      Wouldn't be surprised. I don't think it stand on it's own merits and actually be profitable. Well, especially with what they're paying guys now, obviously.

        garyt1957 I don't think it stand on it's own merits and actually be profitable.

        Agree. And if you define 'profitable' other than money, definitely not.

          Eguller Should have started with luring players away from the WNBA, instead of PGA?
          IOW, started something different, not golf. Not men's golf, anyway.

          Don't know what happened, Brandell fell asleep, wires got tangled, or what, but saw an interview earlier with Bryson. On TGC, 'Live at the Open' telecast. 😲
          I think it was from today, not last year. 😉

          Spuzz But Friday, they will be the featured groups, being out late afternoon. Unless they cut the broadcasts.

          garyt1957 You could make an argument that Bryson is a top player, at least before the wrist injury. So if the wrist heals up, he could be back to form.

          Koepka, similarly, has been off his game for a while, but it may have also been injury related. He is still competitive, and, if anything, was better this year than last, so moving, perhaps, in the right direction.

          The other guy I'll make an argument for is Abraham Ancer. At his best he is competitive on any tour, and often does well, for example, in the majors.

            rsvman2 Definiteley agree on Bryson and Koepka when healthy. Bryson had a good first round.

            This might be buried in this thread but what is Greg Norman's financial stake in the LIV? Did he get millions up front or is he an investor or combination thereof?

              Rickochet I would guess he gets a healthy 8 figure check as CEO, but he might work for free if it means screwing with the Tour lol.

              Rickochet
              If I had to guess ...
              Norman may be many things - but a poor businessman does not appear to be one of them. I can't believe he would risk any significant part of his considerable amassed fortune ($420 mil?) here - when he likely didn't have to. Either that or he has his portion setup to be taken as a tax write-off if/when it fails.

              darpar I give this charade 2 years max!

              With only one sponsor, I too, wonder how long the Saudi's will keep shelling out the $.