LBlack14 From what I read, Earl was a part of the debauchery. I also read that those 2 weren't on speaking terms until not too long before his death.

If that is the case that might explain a lot.

Weirfan

Yeah, there seems to be multiple sources out there (all unconfirmed at this point obviously) that he refused the breathalyzer and wasn't quite as "cooperative" as he claimed in the prepared statement.

The thing is you never know whether that stuff will be detailed in the final police report, as I'm sure this isn't something that a few outings with the Jupiter Police Dpt/Palm Beach County sheriff's office won't take care of in a hush-hush manner.

But it sounds like he's got far more serious things to worry about now than his image. And if he refuses to address them, we've yet to see just how much lower his rock-bottom goes.

    PA-PLAYA

    From what I am reading the info being sourced is from law enforcement , but I agree , who knows what might end up in the final report.

    All I know is that reports (apparently coming from law enforcement ) are he was pulled over for driving erratically at what was it 3 am, smelled like booze ( meds don't make you smell like alcohol) , refused a breathalizer. ( why refuse a breathalizer when you weren't drinking, you blow good you likely go home and nothing else happens)

    Looks, sounds like a duck to me

      Weirfan From what I am reading the info being sourced is from law enforcement , but I agree , who knows what might end up in the final report.

      All I know is that reports (apparently coming from law enforcement ) are he was pulled over for driving erratically at what was it 3 am, smelled like booze ( meds don't make you smell like alcohol) , refused a breathalizer. ( why refuse a breathalizer when you weren't drinking, you blow good you likely go home and nothing else happens)

      Looks, sounds like a duck to me

      So, if he refused the breath stuff doesn't he have to get a blood sample test or can he refuse that as well?

        Rickochet

        From what I have read so far, no, they can't force you into any type of sample giving. They can take a sample if you are unconscious.

        Apparently , 40% of people stopped for suspected DUI in Florida refuse the breathalizer. This way you are not providing evidence against yourself and they have a much more difficult time charging you with DUI , the DUI carries a heavier penalty than refusal to provide a breathalizer , which is just a temporary suspended liscence

        Meds gives you alcohol breath if that's what you take them with.

        Which begs the question........what was he doing out at 3 am? I know that's none of my business but it makes me wonder.....and dressed like that. So Sad.

        Rickochet
        From what I read, Earl was a part of the debauchery. I also read that those 2 weren't on speaking terms until not too long before his death.

        Earl was the role model

        Rickochet

        The truth is never as simple as it looks sometimes. While I don't think Earl was exactly a perfect role model for his son, I also know that we're only allowed a very small window to look through regarding Tiger's life, and outside of the scandal - we really don't have much of a perspective of how he lives off the course.

        I do think however that the scandal revealed a few things.

        He obviously led a different life when he wasn't home. He showed no interest in coming clean when the initial allegation hit the airwaves with the first mistress, and when it became obvious that all of these other women he bedded saw an opportunity to make some serious money in tell-all interviews following that - he was left with no other choice but to admit it and deal with the consequences.

        That different life he led, imo, wasn't public knowledge to his closest friends, or at least his true friends. Looking back on it now, I have no issues believing what Steve Williams said when he claimed that he had no idea. A lot of people in his inner circle had no idea. Which brings up the second point - Tiger's inner circle wasn't nearly as big as some initially believed. And even those considered to be inside his circle were relationships maintained at a guarded, commercial existence; they were there to serve a purpose for his career more than anything else, which is why a lot of his alleged "close friends" were genuinely shocked to hear the reports coming out on the news about the scandal.

        Then with what we learned via Hank Haney, about Tiger's obsession with Navy Seal training... about the weekends spent at the navy seal center in California, training with one of the teams... training with the Special Forces unit in NC, doing live-fire exercises... the skydiving, the deep-sea diver training with certified military trainers, his several-mile runs around his gated neighborhood with military rucksack on his back in combat boots, and all of those times Hank said that he would come by only to see Tiger playing military-action themed video games in his den. Do I think Hank made that stuff up? No way.

        And that last revelation, imo, better describes Woods' obsession with high-risk activities when he felt bored, whether it was trying to win a golf tournament by 12 strokes, or seeing how many women he could bed, without getting caught, when he wasn't home with his wife and kids.

        Don't misunderstand - these are not excuses. He acted like an ass on the course sometimes, acted like he was entitled and that the fans were little more than nuisances who distracted him while he was playing. He was a major league douchebag for destroying his marriage the way he did. And I do think that he resented getting caught and being humiliated more than he genuinely regretted the various occasions he was unfaithful to his wife.

        Tiger has always had an enormous degree of narcism, which has probably morphed to a clinical level. Which, mind you, means that he isn't prone to admitting mistakes, and perhaps (but hopefully not!) means that if he is dealing with a prescription-drug dependency - it will be difficult for him to admit it and get help.

        And that's why I think he might have more serious problems on his plate than his image now.

        Mugshots never look good, but that mugshot (to me) spoke volumes about where his life is at the moment. With two little kids especially - I find it very sad.

        Does anyone think he'll be appearing on TV screens in the next 72 hours to confess to an "alcohol addiction related issue". He can't even invoke "the lord" like Cink did (please correct me if I'm wrong but did he not go through very similar problems many years ago before being "saved"). Though I suppose he could convert, though exactly how a further lurch away from reality would help, I'm not sure,

        As has been the norm since the days of FGI, the damn's come out in full force.
        Yeah, "wow" what an outfit Eldrick is wearing in his mug shot - not that his apparel might have been confiscated. What do your pajamas look like?
        We all know Eldrick so well - a monumental public figure, so tragic... I wonder how many of you know your best friends and spouses in their private moments. We know what the media has provided us.
        That being the case, can we reserve judgment until we have more information?

        Regarding the 'war games', it seems to me that a geeky little kid-prodigy, getting his public start on the Johnny Carson show, the son of a lieutenant colonel, might just want to prove that he's as tough as he thought his dad was. I'll reserve my more critical speculation for others after I've judged myself in kind.

        Hard to believe what really happened anymore,Tiger certainly has some credibility issues these days. 😉
        As far as Earl goes,without his dad's constant pushing and prodding to be the best,there probably wouldn't
        be a Tiger Woods the 14 time major winner....maybe he wouldn't have even played golf.

        Here's a pretty good read (long) about their relationship and other insights:
        http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/secret-history-tiger-woods/story?id=47709944

          Spuzz

          And when my back is hurting , pop a whack of pills and decide to jump in my car and take a ride .

          Tiger is, has been and always will be a lying douchebag !!

            darpar maybe he wouldn't have even played golf.

            Then the world would have been able to marvel at his Navy Seal career instead.
            😉

            Weirfan pop a whack of pills and decide to jump in my car and take a ride

            That helps me (and babies) fall sleep, so I can see why he'd be out driving.

            Good job by Tiger's handlers doing damage control.

            sounds like no alcohol involved so that's some good news. No alcohol DUI charge

            Is a Good outcome for tiger

            Update , haven't seen it but Affidavit says he was asleep at the wheel, didn't know where he was and bombed the field sobriety test.

            More coming out

            Tiger Woods was asleep at the wheel in a stopped car at 2:03 AM -- about 8 miles from his house -- when cops came upon him before his arrest, and he was completely out of it.
            According to the police report, Woods was in his 2015 Mercedes asleep at the wheel with the motor running and right blinker flashing. The report says Woods "had extremely slow and slurred speech."
            He told cops he was "coming from L.A. California from golfing." He then changed his story and said he didn't know where he was.

            Was taken into custody and approximately 3 hours later he took a breathalizer test and blew 0's.

            I've no problem believing it wasn't alcohol-related.. in fact I hinted in my very first post that it probably wasn't. I also have no problem with considering that he might have an issue, with a history of back injuries/surgeries especially, being reliant on prescription pain medication to manage life.

            It might explain why he was pulled over and booked. Nevertheless, it doesn't excuse it. Having lost 2 close friends in my life to other drivers who were driving impaired on two separate occasions, I personally find it impossible to believe that he wasn't made aware of the risks, be it on the medication bottles, or his personal physicians, or both - that he shouldn't be operating a motorized vehicle while using those medications.

            People who want to excuse his lack of judgement have obviously never dealt with tragedy on that level. I don't care how much pain one might be in - it doesn't justify risking someone else's life, and it shouldn't be necessarily glossed over as simply a one-off error in judgement. A majority of people who've been convicted of DUI had a history of driving under the influence for a period prior... they'd just never been busted for it. Why should I think a sports celebrity isn't any different?

            Dude has some serious emotional baggage, a fair degree of narcism, and a chronic back problem that requires prescription-level pain medication maintenance.

            That's usually not a good combination.