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Admittedly, I posted something a while back to take the political stuff to the water hazard but today only read a few of the last posts and honestly, I thought he might be referring to you as one, but I see now it's likely others. ......Ironic that I was thinking I was defending you and you jump me , lol . I realize that isn't obvious, but the truth.

now that I have read back a bit more and am even more off-put by the infighting and personal attacks , I will say to Gary that I should not have singled his post out.....it applies to all the attacks.

is this really what @jrock needs here ? I know its not what he wants. Sure sign up is closed but anyone for who might be wanting to join up and talk about Golf this isn't really the way to entice them.

I'll bow out of this convo now but maybe people could simply keep the political stuff where it belongs , in the water hazard , as it inevitably leads to this nastiness.

The Super Bowl has been over for awhile. So this thread was dying anyway. A mass shooting took place at the parade and was all over the news. I happened to be watching the coverage of the parade on FS1. First Things First was their live when it happened.

Too many things are political that shouldn’t be. Vaccines and mass shootings shouldn’t be political. But they are. Ironically one saves lives and the other ends lives.

There’s times I find commentary in threads that I think is out of bounds. But I realize what this forum consists of. Mostly older, white, conservative men. I qualify for two of those. lol But no one forces anyone to read anything they don’t agree with.

I’m personally offended by inane threads. So I don’t read them. That’s a joke. Well partially. Lol

johnnydoom Neither vaccines or mass shootings are political. What is political is the ideology that uses government power to force unproven solutions onto those that do not wish to accept them. Demonstrate that something is actually going to be good for the common and it will not need to be implemented by force

Disagree completely on “unproven solutions”. Mass shootings are uniquely American that other countries don’t have nearly the epidemic of. They all have mental illness. But there’s one thing they don’t have. Easy access to guns / lax gun laws. So other countries compared to ours have proven there’s a cause and effect.

Vaccines have proven over the years that they are the most significant medical discovery in history and saved more lives than any other by far.

In both cases guns and vaccines. Government hasn’t forced anything on anyone. But again, both should not be political. Both should be public health and safety issues.

People are offended reading this stuff. So further discussion should be in the Water Hazard. Come in the water is fine. Lol

Me and you probably disagree on many issues. But you are civil in your disagreements. I appreciate that approach. Many can’t control their emotions and the personal attacks and F bombs start flying.

johnnydoom understand that you disagree and appreciate your numbers concerning the effectiveness that other countries have in controlling mass shootings. However, Americans are not fleeing to those countries to enjoy that benefit. Generally speaking, it is the other way around and people will go where they have the most freedom to choose what is best for them as individuals even if it comes with additional risk.

Poll after poll say that the vast majority want common sense gun laws. In many states we’ve gone the other way. We regulate cars more. No one would be in favor of letting someone drive with such lax laws as to obtain a gun.

The cause and effect is clear, but we choose to do nothing. Yes people do want to come here for the freedom and opportunity, no question. But again polls show the majority are for change regarding guns.

Mass shootings / gun violence is a high price we pay for unrestricted access to guns. They should also be such an abhorrent aberration that should not be accepted as normal.

But not to worry. There seems to no amount of mass shootings / gun violence that is a tipping / inflection point. We as Americans have shown that we have an extremely high level of tolerance regarding this violent epidemic. The sad thing is we don’t really try to curtail this.

This country did something to at least try to do something about drunk driving. Can’t we at least try to do something to prevent idiots from obtaining a gun legally?