Walterjn Those who want larger government and less law and order think I'm crazy, while I think they are crazy.

Seems contradictory to me. So you want more law enforcement, more prisons (I'll assume penitentiaries and jails too) and simultaneously less government? That's odd.

    Walterjn Those who want larger government and less law and order think I'm crazy, while I think they are crazy.
    It's all perspective....

    We're all a little crazy.....😉

    backinit Not going to happen. The undocumented criminals attacking the cops in NYC is a prime example of what they want. Decriminalize crime...come on in.

    No one brought political to this thread but you.
    And, it's obvious you have no knowledge nor understanding of the problem at our border and who's trying to escape certain death as refugees. But you wouldn't grasp the difference. And you more than likely wouldn't pass the exam to gain citizenship. Just make sure anyone doing work at your house is paying their laborers a fair and taxed wage. If you get a price break for paying cash, you're only about you. Hope you went to church today!

      professor Don't bother communicating with me. Go watch CNN or something and take the bullshit to the water cooler.

        backinit Once again the liberal crowd comes in and shits all over a thread promoting far left politics

        The issue of a modern civilized society that normalizes mass shootings and gun violence actually should be apolitical. Again, it should be a public health / safety issue.

        If wanting a society with less mass shootings / gun violence is considered far left, then count me in. Meanwhile the thoughts and prayers solution seems to be doing absolutely nothing.

        Having a mass shooting at a Super Bowl parade should be a shocking abhorrent event. But in these times it’s just another ho hum statistic. Next!!!

          backinit Don't bother communicating with me.

          So, in other words you have no response because you're the one who politicized the thread. Sorry you don't have the ability to stand by your comment and substantiate it. Awesome!

          propman well said. Don't mess with the Wild West

          We seem to have regressed worse than the Wild West. We pay a very high price in lives to carry on with the gun culture we have.

          “Contrary to the mythology, many frontier towns had strict gun laws, especially against carrying concealed weapons. As UCLA constitutional law professor Adam Winkler puts it, “Guns were widespread on the frontier, but so was gun regulation.”

            Sneakylong I didn't realize that more strict regulations existed back in the day.
            That, imo, shows how we have regressed. And to anyone that might be interested I ain't a liberal.

            professor maybe not more law. I believe that the country needs to get back to following the constitution, more enforcement of already on the books that do not conflict with the constitution. Less writing new laws that do nothing except make politicians feel better. And less government. Less irs, less dept of education (that in itself is a joke, since that monstrosity was created this country has fallen in quality of education), get rid of the FED, and a bunch of other useless agencies.

              Walterjn

              Many have an inate hostility toward a strong national government. Some of our ancestors came here fleeing oppressive national regimes. Those experiences conditioned being suspicious of big government.

              But many came to the United States with high hopes for a better life, which they eventually received from the United States government with the coming of the New Deal that produced the GI Bill, Social Security and eventually Medicare.

              So many say they hate big government until they need it. People tend to like clean drinking water, safe food to eat and many of the things that we take for granted in everyday life. This countries big government helped rebuild Europe after WWII as well.

              People have a disconnect when it comes to big government. People love big government programs. They hate socialism, but love the socialist programs like Social Security, Medicare and related programs.

              So when people say they hate big government I laugh. Most people want a strong military along with the so called entitlement programs. And guess what? That’s where most of the money goes to fund those things.

              So complaining or cutting other parts of big government is really just nibbling around the edges. May make you feel better, but don’t amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.

              colej I can just imagine the marxist/socialist/communist intellect. Hopefully, there are talking about how many undocumented immigrants that they have taken in to help with the vote count in 2024.

                backinit Hopefully, there are talking about how many undocumented immigrants that they have taken in to help with the vote count in 2024

                Another ignorant, but funny comment. Lol Also, how come we don’t hear people complaining about illegal immigration coming thru the skies?

                A significant percentage ( ~ 40%) of illegal immigrants come here legally on an airplane and then overstay their Visa’s. In other words they don’t leave.

                Oh, like the illegal immigrants coming over the border, they can’t vote either. 😉 Myths sound good, but are still bullshit.
                Start a thread on it in The Water Hazard. Maybe we can debunk more of these myths.

                  backinit I can just imagine the marxist/socialist/communist intellect.

                  Have you ever read a book about Marxism, instead of "imagining"?

                  backinit I can just imagine the marxist/socialist/communist intellect. Hopefully, there are talking about how many undocumented immigrants that they have taken in to help with the vote count in 2024.

                  OMG Do you know anything about Karl Marx and Marxism? Seriously, have you ever read one paragraph of a book he's written? Then maybe stfu without an informed opinion?
                  And on another, are you daft? Undocumented immigrants can't vote. How many times do we have to give you the U.S. citizenry test?!

                    professor are you daft? Undocumented immigrants can't vote.

                    If you truly believe that or believe it's not possible, you asked the wrong person that question. Look towards the mirror.

                    Migawd....for someone that advocates against bullying, you most certainly are a hypocrite.
                    And should lose any certifications to talk with any child!!
                    Horrible person, you are. Disgustingly so.🤬

                    professor And on another, are you daft? Undocumented immigrants can't vote.

                    You truly are 1 ignorant/dumb sumbitch as are your dumb constituents. Go ahead plug your ears with your fingers and repeat blah blah blah blah, you dummy, you.

                    professor I probably wouldn't bring up health care for undocumented, although I'm sure there's a lefty think tank out there....oops back to radio silence.

                      LBlack14 They had a better chance than the Washington bunch. Usually go with the local team, not much about Las Cruces, many have Cowboy signs displayed, not sure I can go that far.

                      Although much of this thread is gun control propaganda, the parts that are humorous stand out as even funnier just because. 😁

                      backinit I probably wouldn't bring up health care for undocumented

                      This from my local paper yesterday, in IL.....

                      The state and Cook County announced Thursday a roughly $250M plan to provide shelter, health care and other services for recently arrived migrants.......

                      And I have to declare any payments into PayPal, from every/any source, over $600. So I can pay taxes on them.
                      But I'm sure that is only earmarked for public education.😂

                        Par4QC And I have to declare any payments into PayPal, from every/any source, over $600. So I can pay taxes on them.

                        I got some bullshit about they may hold my funds for 21 days until they can, in short, investigate me becasue I'm close to the $700 limit per month, or some shit like that. I will not pay taxes on s*** that's already had taxes paid on it. I'm selling my s, I'm not any f*** business. F*** the IRS!!

                          LBlack14 That's not the Fed IRS. Doesn't go into effect til next year when everyone will pay.
                          That limit is something set by PP only for accounts. They do various holds for various reasons, esp. when shipping. They hold the funds until the buyer shows proof of delivery, or you do with the tracking number. They actually will hold up both sides of the deal. Never much of anything negative that I've read about. Just pissing people off when they do that.

                          IL has a limit outside the Fed IRS, of $600. A few other states do also. 'Migrant' states, perhaps🤔, haven't checked them all yet.

                          I've never had a PP problem even with all the payments I've got for all those clamps/pullers.

                          garyt1957 Exactly. Another thread ruined by a couple jackasses.

                          And that comment there is baseless.
                          Y'all can't even keep track of the information within one stupid thread on GolfBuzz.
                          Here's the truth! Rickochet started the political talk, the first one. And since, he deleted his post, because he was wrong. But that's embedded in Sneaky's reply. But none of you will own that either! Right? Lay blame and delete when 'ya fuck-up. What a bunch of great guys! Own it.

                          Sneakylong5 days agoEdited
                          Rickochet I saw something on the news this morning that St. Louis had 328 vacancies for police officers. That does not include the 100 vacancies that were canceled by the defunding police administration

                          Not sure what this has to do what happened today in Kansas City. 🙄 Included in the 800 law enforcement on the ground at the parade were federal, state and local law enforcement.

                          Weirfan and you could've made your point by talking to the ducks who are guilty of the same shit, instead of nitpickin' on G, for callin' a spade a spade. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......fuck 'em.

                          Double standards much?

                            LBlack14

                            Admittedly, I posted something a while back to take the political stuff to the water hazard but today only read a few of the last posts and honestly, I thought he might be referring to you as one, but I see now it's likely others. ......Ironic that I was thinking I was defending you and you jump me , lol . I realize that isn't obvious, but the truth.

                            now that I have read back a bit more and am even more off-put by the infighting and personal attacks , I will say to Gary that I should not have singled his post out.....it applies to all the attacks.

                            is this really what @jrock needs here ? I know its not what he wants. Sure sign up is closed but anyone for who might be wanting to join up and talk about Golf this isn't really the way to entice them.

                            I'll bow out of this convo now but maybe people could simply keep the political stuff where it belongs , in the water hazard , as it inevitably leads to this nastiness.