Weirfan is this really what @jrock needs here ? I know its not what he wants. Sure sign up is closed but anyone for who might be wanting to join up and talk about Golf this isn't really the way to entice them.

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garyt1957 HaHa, feeling guilty? Did I name the jackass? But way to step up and accept the mantle.

Not one fucking bit. But of course you couldn't step up and own your error. Nor can/did Rickochet. You're all of the same ilk... Can't admit your errors. Really classy.

    Weirfan Sure sign up is closed but anyone for who might be wanting to join up and talk about Golf this isn't really the way to entice them.

    Oh, you mean the way this site and FGI ran-off all the women who'd participated? Right! The boys club rules. LOL
    I appreciate what you're trying to convey. It's just that I don't take well to other members here who band together and just insult and demean a minority that's not really so interested in their "my way or the highway" agenda. In that regard, your effort is admirable.

      professor

      Your last paragraph should be something you say to yourself in the mirror every day. You live by the my way or the highway slogan. If someone doesnā€™t agree with you shame on them cause youā€™ll teach them a lesson.

      professor Not one fucking bit. But of course you couldn't step up and own your error. Nor can/did Rickochet. You're all of the same ilk... Can't admit your errors. Really classy.

      HaHa, again, I never named the culprit and yet you assume it was you. I wonder why?

      professor I appreciate what you're trying to convey. It's just that I don't take well to other members here who band together and just insult and demean a minority that's not really so interested in their "my way or the highway" agenda. In that regard, your effort is admirable.

      You're a dummy AND a hypocrite. Go figure.

      The Super Bowl has been over for awhile. So this thread was dying anyway. A mass shooting took place at the parade and was all over the news. I happened to be watching the coverage of the parade on FS1. First Things First was their live when it happened.

      Too many things are political that shouldnā€™t be. Vaccines and mass shootings shouldnā€™t be political. But they are. Ironically one saves lives and the other ends lives.

      Thereā€™s times I find commentary in threads that I think is out of bounds. But I realize what this forum consists of. Mostly older, white, conservative men. I qualify for two of those. lol But no one forces anyone to read anything they donā€™t agree with.

      Iā€™m personally offended by inane threads. So I donā€™t read them. Thatā€™s a joke. Well partially. Lol

        Sneakylong Neither vaccines or mass shootings are political. What is political is the ideology that uses government power to force unproven solutions onto those that do not wish to accept them. Demonstrate that something is actually going to be good for the common and it will not need to be implemented by force.

          johnnydoom Neither vaccines or mass shootings are political. What is political is the ideology that uses government power to force unproven solutions onto those that do not wish to accept them. Demonstrate that something is actually going to be good for the common and it will not need to be implemented by force

          Disagree completely on ā€œunproven solutionsā€. Mass shootings are uniquely American that other countries donā€™t have nearly the epidemic of. They all have mental illness. But thereā€™s one thing they donā€™t have. Easy access to guns / lax gun laws. So other countries compared to ours have proven thereā€™s a cause and effect.

          Vaccines have proven over the years that they are the most significant medical discovery in history and saved more lives than any other by far.

          In both cases guns and vaccines. Government hasnā€™t forced anything on anyone. But again, both should not be political. Both should be public health and safety issues.

          People are offended reading this stuff. So further discussion should be in the Water Hazard. Come in the water is fine. Lol

          Me and you probably disagree on many issues. But you are civil in your disagreements. I appreciate that approach. Many canā€™t control their emotions and the personal attacks and F bombs start flying.

            Sneakylong I understand that you disagree and appreciate your numbers concerning the effectiveness that other countries have in controlling mass shootings. However, Americans are not fleeing to those countries to enjoy that benefit. Generally speaking, it is the other way around and people will go where they have the most freedom to choose what is best for them as individuals even if it comes with additional risk.

              johnnydoom understand that you disagree and appreciate your numbers concerning the effectiveness that other countries have in controlling mass shootings. However, Americans are not fleeing to those countries to enjoy that benefit. Generally speaking, it is the other way around and people will go where they have the most freedom to choose what is best for them as individuals even if it comes with additional risk.

              Poll after poll say that the vast majority want common sense gun laws. In many states weā€™ve gone the other way. We regulate cars more. No one would be in favor of letting someone drive with such lax laws as to obtain a gun.

              The cause and effect is clear, but we choose to do nothing. Yes people do want to come here for the freedom and opportunity, no question. But again polls show the majority are for change regarding guns.

              Mass shootings / gun violence is a high price we pay for unrestricted access to guns. They should also be such an abhorrent aberration that should not be accepted as normal.

              But not to worry. There seems to no amount of mass shootings / gun violence that is a tipping / inflection point. We as Americans have shown that we have an extremely high level of tolerance regarding this violent epidemic. The sad thing is we donā€™t really try to curtail this.

              This country did something to at least try to do something about drunk driving. Canā€™t we at least try to do something to prevent idiots from obtaining a gun legally?

                Sneakylong Poll after poll say that the vast majority want common sense gun laws

                Then politicians running on that message will win, the laws will be passed, and it will be so.

                  johnnydoom Then politicians running on that message will win, the laws will be passed, and it will be so

                  I wish. But sadly itā€™s not high enough on peopleā€™s list. That says more about us than anything else. And not in a good way. That we accept this as normal.

                    Sneakylong I explain it above. It was fundamental to our founding and risk/benefits will always exist in the world. Your priorities and mine are different and that is where both of us having the freedom to choose what we want for ourselves is important. To choose what you want others to do is a different matter and for most of our history Americans have not wished to have others tell them what to do.

                      johnnydoom explain it above. It was fundamental to our founding and risk/benefits will always exist in the world. Your priorities and mine are different and that is where both of us having the freedom to choose what we want for ourselves is important. To choose what you want others to do is a different matter and for most of our history Americans have not wished to have others tell them what to do.

                      Yup, very different. We have regulation by government in every aspect of life. We have the rule of law in this country. So we have guidelines as to what people can or canā€™t do. So people canā€™t do whatever they feel like doing.

                      As a civilized society this is how it works. In a civilized society ones persons freedom shouldnā€™t infringe on another personā€™s right to live.

                        Sneakylong e have regulation by government in every aspect of life. We have the rule of law in this country.

                        And there are many of us, including myself that think it has gone way too far already and that now the law is a weapon against us and not a protection for us. How many laws do we have? Thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands? Is there a judge, lawyer, law enforcement officer in the country that can even claim to know what ten percent of them are?

                          Sneakylong

                          Sneakylong Shooting at the Super Bowl Parade in Kansas City. Multiple people injured. Initial reports say at least 10 people shot. Three critical and 5 serious. At least one dead. Parade ruined because of idiots with guns. Another new low for the country.

                          This is what got you idiots all riled up 6 days ago? Find a hobby and grow up. 6 days agoā€¦šŸ™„

                            johnnydoom

                            Maybe we can find some common ground, or maybe not. Are you in favor of idiots being able to purchase assault rifles / weapons of war with no training or license and walk around in society?

                            Would you be in favor of the same regarding driving an automobile?