Par4QC Recoil Darts are nice. This year Iā€™ll see how the heavy ctaper 125 gram shafts work out and decide if I want to reshaft with Darts or rapid tapers. I have my eye on a set of 2014 TM MCā€™s with KBS Tour shafts that are +1/2ā€ā€¦ Iā€™d pull those and throw in a set of graphite. Just donā€™t know if I want to go back in time.

    Typhoon I have a new set of irons with the new KBS Tour Lite 100, which is their S flex now. Only played a couple clubs a few holes, but damn are they clunky. Not sure if it's these shafts or the heads, but fixin to find out in the Spring. It does almost feel like it's the shafts though, and if so, I can change them to the Recoils.

      Par4QC
      Yeah, I donā€™t think we even carry the KBS lite 100 or 90. Just not a good shaft for some reason. KBS has more weight toward the butt so with the lightweight already Iā€™d guess thatā€™s the clunky feeling. Iā€™d take them out, your really not gaining anything with them over graphite.

      This year Iā€™m going to try to get more of the people over 50 into graphite. Itā€™s just becoming a better choice with all the weight options. Iā€™m just hoping TM expands the graphite line a little bit with some heavier options.

        Typhoon

        My personal opinion on KBS shafts is stay the hell away. Why canā€™t they make a shaft with a tip that holds up? I donā€™t want to have deal with warranty or no warranty shaft change issues.

          Typhoon Iā€™m just hoping TM expands the graphite line a little bit with some heavier options.

          The people that use/want to use, graphite do not want 'heavy'. The Recoils are around 75g, which should be perfect for most. Anything much heavier is going to have stiffer tips/less torque, and then you just as well be using steel as it's cheaper(mostly).

          • KCee replied to this.

            Par4QC The people that use/want to use, graphite do not want 'heavy'.

            Bite your tongue. I know I'm in the extreme minority but Iike graphite irons over 100g....and not X flex lol

              colej DonM

              Practice version are very affordable

              Especially from Egullerā€™s stash ! šŸ˜‰

              ā€¦.. and you get newish, non practice ones.

              DonM Buy used TP5's?

              Whether 2nd hand or Practice, they are still higher per dozen than 2 dozen new Kirklands. More than I want to pay to occasionally hit a longer drive. Egullerā€™s stash is a bargain, but Costco is only 5 miles away and is cash and carry.

              KCee I'm just saying that if the graphite is 100 g., then they are not going to feel much different than steel shafts. At that weight, there just is not much give or shock absorption. I've had/used graphite over 100, but only had them for the 'looks', they played like steel, even in R flex. And it was when I was much younger.

              I'm not going to buy into that about heavy graphite shafts, sorry. Buy softer grips. šŸ˜‰

                Par4QC I have a set with Recoil 110 F4 and I find they dampen shock better than my set with DG 105 R300 VSS. Both work for me but my bad right wrist can tell the difference after 18.

                  KCee Par4QC I have a set with Recoil 110 F4 and I find they dampen shock better than my set with DG 105 R300 VSS. Both work for me but my bad right wrist can tell the difference after 18.

                  Absolutely Kcee. Lightweight graphite is perfect for older players with slower swings. There is absolutely a need for heavier graphite. As the stability gets better you need the heavier weight to reach a wider range of golfers. The MMT I hit, the 125 and 105 have metal in the tip, the Steelfiber too but they still have a different feel at impact than steel does. Itā€™s the shock absorption I feel.

                  Par4QC Buy softer grips

                  ??? Who wants a ā€œspongeā€ in their hands? The one part of the club you touch you want to feel right. Those spongy grips, if you have any speed or are a digger will not be stable enough.