Subsonic I have a set of brand new set of Recoil Darts, and maybe a set of the KBS somewhere. imo, the Darts are a better shaft than the other model, but that is just my 'feel'; have used both/have both.

BTW...there is no poon inserted through that hole. I believe it to be player provided.

      Par4QC Recoil Darts are nice. This year I’ll see how the heavy ctaper 125 gram shafts work out and decide if I want to reshaft with Darts or rapid tapers. I have my eye on a set of 2014 TM MC’s with KBS Tour shafts that are +1/2”… I’d pull those and throw in a set of graphite. Just don’t know if I want to go back in time.

          Typhoon I have a new set of irons with the new KBS Tour Lite 100, which is their S flex now. Only played a couple clubs a few holes, but damn are they clunky. Not sure if it's these shafts or the heads, but fixin to find out in the Spring. It does almost feel like it's the shafts though, and if so, I can change them to the Recoils.

              Par4QC
              Yeah, I don’t think we even carry the KBS lite 100 or 90. Just not a good shaft for some reason. KBS has more weight toward the butt so with the lightweight already I’d guess that’s the clunky feeling. I’d take them out, your really not gaining anything with them over graphite.

              This year I’m going to try to get more of the people over 50 into graphite. It’s just becoming a better choice with all the weight options. I’m just hoping TM expands the graphite line a little bit with some heavier options.

                  Typhoon

                  My personal opinion on KBS shafts is stay the hell away. Why can’t they make a shaft with a tip that holds up? I don’t want to have deal with warranty or no warranty shaft change issues.

                      Typhoon I’m just hoping TM expands the graphite line a little bit with some heavier options.

                      The people that use/want to use, graphite do not want 'heavy'. The Recoils are around 75g, which should be perfect for most. Anything much heavier is going to have stiffer tips/less torque, and then you just as well be using steel as it's cheaper(mostly).

                      • KCee replied to this.

                          Par4QC The people that use/want to use, graphite do not want 'heavy'.

                          Bite your tongue. I know I'm in the extreme minority but Iike graphite irons over 100g....and not X flex lol

                              DonM Buy used TP5's?

                              Whether 2nd hand or Practice, they are still higher per dozen than 2 dozen new Kirklands. More than I want to pay to occasionally hit a longer drive. Eguller’s stash is a bargain, but Costco is only 5 miles away and is cash and carry.

                                KCee I'm just saying that if the graphite is 100 g., then they are not going to feel much different than steel shafts. At that weight, there just is not much give or shock absorption. I've had/used graphite over 100, but only had them for the 'looks', they played like steel, even in R flex. And it was when I was much younger.

                                I'm not going to buy into that about heavy graphite shafts, sorry. Buy softer grips. 😉