Par4QC Why would anyone ever deliberately hit down on the ball on the tee???? Regardless of any lofts.

I have never had a lesson in my 62 years of playing. I have a negative AOA with my driver. Always have and always will. I don't do it on purpose. It just happened on it's own and I am not about to change it now. I just select a loft that works best. Generally I have used 12° or higher. I have an 18° that I deloft at address that I hit well with my desired trajectory. I have an old 12° Integra Super Sooolong with adjustable weights that I have at 210g. This sucker hits worm burners that roll a mile.

      Subsonic Not an odd question. Golf is a game of opposites. If he is getting good launch with 8 degrees he may be hitting down on the ball.

      I don't necessarily get good launch. I hit low bullets that roll out farther than any high loft driver with more carry. The firmer it gets the more I gain.

        Par4QC Odd question, that one.

        Why would anyone ever deliberately hit down on the ball on the tee???? Regardless of any lofts.

        PGA pros average 1* negative AOA.

            Par4QC As a Senior, I guess I need that explained to me.

            When I throw something down, it goes down, not up.
            If I hit down on a golf ball sitting on a tee, it is going down. That is a promise.

            😧🤣😂

              Rickochet jmo, but 'negative AoA' is not 'hitting down'. If you are hitting down, your driver will continue down. Your club will never go up.

              If you understand that, then you know why I dislike the term "hitting down". No one....hits down on a ball.

                  fatshot Hmmmm.....should it trouble me that the PGA tour pro's Club Speed with a Pitching Wedge is about the same as mine.....with a DRIVER...??

                  Right there with you. Whatta ya gonna do?

                    Par4QC If you understand that, then you know why I dislike the term "hitting down". No one....hits down on a ball.

                    If the clubhead is moving down when you hit the ball how is that not hitting down? This should be good.

                    Par4QC jmo, but 'negative AoA' is not 'hitting down'. If you are hitting down, your driver will continue down. Your club will never go up.

                    Why? The swings an arc, it goes down then goes up. If you contact the ball while it's going down you're hitting down, what's hard to understand about that?

                          garyt1957 If you contact the ball while it's going down you're hitting down,

                          ...then ball is in the wrong position. Or you are, take your pick. jmo, again.
                          This is why people 'try to' use high loft driver heads. Move. Your. Ass. Over. You'll get the height from that 10 the same as you do now with that 14. With less spin. Maybe.

                          DonM This could only be an argument in the Last Tee.

                          I'm not arguing anything. Stating fact. If I hit down on that ball, you can be damn sure it's going down.

                                Par4QC I'm not arguing anything. Stating fact. If I hit down on that ball, you can be damn sure it's going down.

                                You must be playing a 0* driver

                                  Par4QC

                                  I think you’d be right if you hit directly down on top of the ball as if to pound the ball into the ground.

                                  But with a single digit negative angle of attack with a lofted club the ball with be launched in the air.

                                  That’s just physics. No? If not then the earth is flat. Lol

                                      What length are those drivers? He's either 7' tall or those drivers are like 40" long🤔

                                      fatshot

                                      fatshot Hmmmm.....should it trouble me that the PGA tour pro's Club Speed with a Pitching Wedge is about the same as mine.....with a DRIVER...??

                                      They are not going to be invited to join the Last Tee Club...

                                          Par4QC That's like saying that if you are in a wagon and you push the handle to the left, the wagon is going left. Not gonna happen. When you push the handle left, the wagon is darn sure gonna turn right. Because, well, that's the way wagons work.

                                          Your golf ball, same as anybody else's, is forced to follow the laws of physics. Hitting down on the ball is going to impart a lot of backspin onto the ball, which is going to make the ball go up.

                                              rsvman2 Your golf ball, same as anybody else's, is forced to follow the laws of physics. Hitting down on the ball is going to impart a lot of backspin onto the ball, which is going to make the ball go up.

                                              Read my lips....I do not hit down on any golf ball with a driver. And they always go up. Always!
                                              And I use lower lofts than most here.
                                              It's why I'm such a bad golfer.

                                              No wonder OEMs are making so much money off high lofted drivers today. They are probably the ones preaching to hit 'down' on the ball. And yes, everything you read nowadays says use more loft. Why? Because they know what people are doing out there......hitting down on the ball. It is so simple for them to sell you that club than try to convince you to change your swing a bit. Plus, there is a money factor for them.

                                              What does 12* minus 3* equal??? Hit up!!! And they said they can't hit a 9* driver.🤔 Liars.

                                              And when people say 'the Pros do it', well, I just laugh. Because we are not Pros and need to stop trying to copy anything they might do, because when they do it, they do it for a reason. And have practiced those shots since they could walk.