A member here reported big gains with the LB130, then all the rocket science assholes here told him he was a liar.

I bought and sold a number of the early release TM driver that were illegal due to core. They were longer than the same TM driver that was then tested legal. The key was to hit the ball dead center on the screws and you got the benefit of the physics involved. Off center hits did not seem to make much difference. So you have to ask how often do you really hit the driver in the sweet spot?

Most golfers did not realize the difference in the legal and illegal TM driver was easily recognizable by the face lines. So I ended up buying & selling quite a few over several years. I was actually amazed at what some bidders would pay. I tend to be value oriented, but it made me realize when some people want something, price is not an issue.

I've been playing a golfworks Defiant with an aldila nvs 55R shafted at 46". For me it just reduces the distance loss on off center hits. I think I'm getting more distance but since I'm not that consistent I'm not sure. Since a brain tumor took me out of the game for a few years I would play with a non-conforming bag full of non-conforming clubs if I could and wouldn't give a rat's butt about it.

    Is there a "non-conforming" driver which produces noticeable advantage in distance ?
    Or most of them are marketing slogans !
    I would consider over 5% gain in distance keeping everything else the same qualifies.

    govols Still at it after brain tumor
    Play with any darn club you feel like using !
    This world, the next, then the fire trucks
    ???
    I don't know...

      Release,do you want more distance? Get fitted. No need for a nonconforming driver,believe me.
      Govols ,if there is a non-conforming putter I am ready to buy it if you can tell me where.

        Balleszabal

        Believe me, I know the importance of being fitted for golf equipment.

        I was asking if there is a real distance gainer regardless of conforming or not.
        The upper limit with current technology and material at hands could produce a COR of .90 So is there a driver head close to .90 COR ? If so, anyone has experience with it ?

          The longest non-conforming driver (it was never submitted) I have ever used was a TourSwing Infringer.

          I finally retired my Infringer for one last adjustable driver vs 919 shootout.

          govols

          With an Moi off the charts and non-conventional in shape, it should be non-conforming.

            There is the TPF M80 , the Enhanced model for ss below 85 mph (I think) has a 0.90 COR but still I do not get any more distance compared with my legal drivers.However I have the impression that the Ryoma Maxima D1 (www.tourspecgolf.com) does fool the norm because both crown and sole are made of a propietary Ti alloy that flexes like paper.Great carry and incredibly unusual long roll.

            I am aware of the overseas market for the non-conforming drivers.

            Not ready to spend that kind of money for a golf club...... although I had seen what the equipment could do to boost the gofer's confidence.

            Balleszabal Dechambo ? has non conforming putter he might let go cheap since USGA is on his a $$

              Hit more fairways, your scores will drop.

              So from what I gathered, most of the "non-conforming" driver heads are just... mostly hypes !
              Okay back to work out so I could think that I'm 30 years younger.