Might not be good for golf, but definitely appears to have been a smart decision for Ogletree in the short run. 2 years as a pro - $38k. 1 week in LIV - $120k. By the end of this year he could buy a nice house for cash and land a job as a club pro. There are worse ways to re-start a career.
Super League Predictions
Since LIV players aren’t accruing points to qualify for Ryder Cup/President’s Cup … could the captain use one of his “captain’s picks” to select an LIV player?
Stu1961 Since LIV players aren’t accruing points to qualify for Ryder Cup/President’s Cup … could the captain use one of his “captain’s picks” to select an LIV player?
That's what I posted earlier, would love to see whoever the Capt is pick DJ just to watch all the heads explode. I don't see why they couldn't do it, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen
I can't find anything definitive for the 2023 team selection criteria, but the rules for previous Ryder Cups have 'must be a member of the PGA/European Tour' as one of the conditions to be met for a player to be selected.
MartinD Correct, for the US side, must be a member of PGA--which is not the PGA Tour. Being a member of PGA Tour gave them PGA membership, no easy thing to ve a PGA member though.
ode I haven't seen the Euros punish their members--Yet.
- Edited
Bravopilot makes me wonder if those guys consult the R&A/Euro Tour first. Hard to imagine those guys wouldn't be RC captains!
Bravopilot I haven't seen the Euros punish their members--Yet.
I may have already posted this, but if the Euro Tour wanted to play the PGA dirty all they have to do is say they'll allow their players to play LIV with no punishment, and voila! half the PGA Tour immediately goes over to the Euro Tour and the PGA is left holding the bag. Those guys can then earn points for the majors which is one of the main stumbling blocks for the LIV Tour. The PGA Tour would have to crumble or go bankrupt.
- Edited
I think the main reason (U.S. players anyway) care about the Ryder Cup is because their sponsors want the visibility of them playing in the Ryder Cup. I would imagine the players that jumped to LIV have already factored in the probable loss of sponsorship into their economic risk/benefit calculation. Now it just remains to be seen if they've miscalculated.
ode moreso an issue for future captaincy Westwood, Garcia, Poulter. Those guys might get there shot anyway as who else do they have to choose from
I'd also include McDowell on that list of potential European captains who decided to go down the LIV route.
That said, there are still a few decent options - Casey, Donald, Molinari, Rose - or ask a previous captain if they would like to do the job again.
Spuzz But it is a special brand of regional genius!
johnnydoom I would imagine the players that jumped to LIV have already factored in the probable loss of sponsorship into their economic risk/benefit calculation
Speaking of Sponsors:
Those that jumped ship speak of family time (and yes maybe some of it is BS) but not having a sponsor also frees up some family time, or more personal time, for charities and whatever.
It would be a large assumption that the top tier LIV guys would not be supporting their favorite charities with all this "found" money rolling in. It would also be another discussion if said charities would accept "blood" money, but that's a chat for down the road.
In reality, if an up and coming Amateur intends to join the PGA Tour, he must already have a bag full of cash, or a Sponsor. I have always thought that it's the rich kids that play golf, and having an empty bank account means is a pipe dream unless you are an absolute lock (like Tiger). There are more fails than succeeds. To me, not all of that is due to lack of skills. Some, or most, of that, must be due to lack of monetary support.
No guaranteed income from a just one week's worth of time and effort and expenses can only go on for a short time.
So what if the AMs hit the LIV Tour (if it's possible) before they join the PGA? I mean down the road a bit, if that tour takes off? Interesting to me.
As I said before, it looks like the PGA has no Plan B or foresight and have played the Tiger card for far too long and now are between a rock and a hard place regarding promotion of the names. Some huge compromises are on the horizon.
Adapt or die as they say.
Just some Spuzzmusings