Eguller LIV golf - you're trying to beat the same guys in 8 events. Snooooooze.

But.....the can spend more time with their FAMILIES.....!!! šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£

    Might not be good for golf, but definitely appears to have been a smart decision for Ogletree in the short run. 2 years as a pro - $38k. 1 week in LIV - $120k. By the end of this year he could buy a nice house for cash and land a job as a club pro. There are worse ways to re-start a career.

    Since LIV players arenā€™t accruing points to qualify for Ryder Cup/Presidentā€™s Cup ā€¦ could the captain use one of his ā€œcaptainā€™s picksā€ to select an LIV player?

      Stu1961 I don't see why not.....or choose one as a vice Capt.....unlikely as it may be.

        Stu1961 Since LIV players arenā€™t accruing points to qualify for Ryder Cup/Presidentā€™s Cup ā€¦ could the captain use one of his ā€œcaptainā€™s picksā€ to select an LIV player?

        That's what I posted earlier, would love to see whoever the Capt is pick DJ just to watch all the heads explode. I don't see why they couldn't do it, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen

          I can't find anything definitive for the 2023 team selection criteria, but the rules for previous Ryder Cups have 'must be a member of the PGA/European Tour' as one of the conditions to be met for a player to be selected.

            MartinD anything definitive for the 2023 team selection criteria

            So far, (for the Euros) all I have read is that joining LIV puts their Ryder Cup "eligibility in jeopardy" but nothing more.
            I think the US eligibility will be more "complicated"
            Just a guess.

            • ode replied to this.

                MartinD Correct, for the US side, must be a member of PGA--which is not the PGA Tour. Being a member of PGA Tour gave them PGA membership, no easy thing to ve a PGA member though.

                  Spuzz moreso an issue for future captaincy Westwood, Garcia, Poulter. Those guys might get there shot anyway as who else do they have to choose fromšŸ¤”

                      Bravopilot makes me wonder if those guys consult the R&A/Euro Tour first. Hard to imagine those guys wouldn't be RC captains!

                        Bravopilot I haven't seen the Euros punish their members--Yet.

                        I may have already posted this, but if the Euro Tour wanted to play the PGA dirty all they have to do is say they'll allow their players to play LIV with no punishment, and voila! half the PGA Tour immediately goes over to the Euro Tour and the PGA is left holding the bag. Those guys can then earn points for the majors which is one of the main stumbling blocks for the LIV Tour. The PGA Tour would have to crumble or go bankrupt.

                            garyt1957 I may have already posted this

                            I already mentioned this, but whatever.
                            It would be a smart business move on their part.

                                I think the main reason (U.S. players anyway) care about the Ryder Cup is because their sponsors want the visibility of them playing in the Ryder Cup. I would imagine the players that jumped to LIV have already factored in the probable loss of sponsorship into their economic risk/benefit calculation. Now it just remains to be seen if they've miscalculated.

                                  ode moreso an issue for future captaincy Westwood, Garcia, Poulter. Those guys might get there shot anyway as who else do they have to choose fromšŸ¤”

                                  I'd also include McDowell on that list of potential European captains who decided to go down the LIV route.

                                  That said, there are still a few decent options - Casey, Donald, Molinari, Rose - or ask a previous captain if they would like to do the job again.

                                      Spuzz I already mentioned this, but whatever.

                                      I knew it was a genius thought, just thought I came up with it

                                          MartinD Casey, Donald, Molinari, Rose

                                          I think it kind of odd, that these fellas would be European captains. They seldom play there, and they've all been living in the U.S. for several years. Just doesn't seem right, for some reason.

                                              garyt1957 I knew it was a genius thought, just thought I came up with it

                                              LOL
                                              Genius is not limited to my small part of Canada
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