Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

raggmann54

Watching the highlights on LIV Golf’s YouTube streaming channel…Jumps around from shot to shot, scores down left side of screen is distracting…Crowds seem decent…Not too many “walking billboards” other than a few equipment logos on hats and Master Card logo or 2 on a collar…Lot of local business ad banners around the Tee boxes…

garyt1957

raggmann54 Not too many “walking billboards”

That's because they all lost their sponsors. Pretty soon guys will be wearing "Joe's Laundromat" on their hats

garyt1957

Par4QC To me though, he has been a wonder....playing with seemingly broken arms from patting himself on the back, at every turn.

That's my take on him, too. He's got little man's disease, always needing to prove he measures up. I didn't like when he beat Arnie's record of 50 Masters then tried to play it off as some type of testament to physical fitness or some BS. No Gary, you just wanted the record for yourself

azgreg

Par4QC

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rebel-dustin-johnson-tests-strategic-193614587.html

DonM

Par4QC I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot. They already seemed to be fading. They can’t afford to lose good players. So this new tour could hurt them badly. They almost have to allow the players to stay or join up, for their own survival.

I don’t know what degree of solidarity they have with the PGA Tour.

Spuzz

DonM I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot

I disagree, and I already addressed this earlier.
About time a journalist caught up with a Spuzzmusing or two
LOL

The DP Tour is in a good spot.
They should carry on as is and allow their own members to play their own tour, whomever they may be.
They don't owe the PGA Tour anything. It might be the opposite.

Sneakylong

DonM I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot. They already seemed to be fading. They can’t afford to lose good players. So this new tour could hurt them badly. They almost have to allow the players to stay or join up, for their own survival.

I don’t know what degree of solidarity they have with the PGA Tour.

https://www.europeantour.com/dpworld-tour/news/articles/detail/pga-tour-and-european-tour-announce-details-of-historic-strategic-alliance/

They very well could be in a tough spot. Possibly worse than the PGA Tour. They made an 'historic strategic alliance' with the PGA Tour last year. They can't afford to lose too many of their players. So far they've remained mostly silent on what if any action will be taken regarding players playing in LIV Golf events.

https://www.golfmagic.com/dp-world-tour/dp-world-tour-breaks-silence-liv-golf-rebels-scottish-open-status

"The circuit, formerly known as the European Tour, has stayed silent through the LIV Golf drama but the PGA Tour finally took action yesterday afternoon.

They are in a "strategic alliance" with American tour but are yet to announce what disciplinary measures - if any - they will introduce."

In May they followed the PGA Tour and did block any releases for LIV Golf events. So the obvious question is what consequences will (if any) take place for those that went ahead with playing in LIV Golf tournaments.

Par4QC

DonM Keeping in mind, the players there really do not much like Americans. It's why you never see some of them come over. They have some very big names/multiple winners, that won't cross the ocean, even for the money here. I think that will play into any decisions as to letting these guys join up.

garyt1957

DonM I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot. They already seemed to be fading. They can’t afford to lose good players. So this new tour could hurt them badly. They almost have to allow the players to stay or join up, for their own survival.

I don’t know what degree of solidarity they have with the PGA Tour.

Seems they could steal the PGA Tour's thunder by allowing players to come and go. All the LIV players would then play on the Euro Tour to qualify for majors and even more PGA guys would jump for sure. The PGA Tour would be in dire straits.

DonM

Spuzz I think we are partly saying the same thing? They can’t afford to kick out players, right?

Eguller

Spuzz They don't owe the PGA Tour anything. It might be the opposite.

My take is that they feed off each other. Look at the current leaders in the DPWT and the FEDEX Cup.
The two tend to agree more than disagree - to their mutual benefit. LIV sucks.

Spuzz

Eguller My take is that they feed off each other

Only because the Euro Tour made compromises to allow their members to play BOTH tours.
Working together to try and keep their members/employees happy and not suspending them because they took a my way or the highway approach. They even adjusted the rules to allow it (less required DP Events for eg.)
This is why I would continue on as is, as the DP Tour has been consistent all along.
LIV may suck, but it should be treated as just another tour and as long as DP and PGA Tour members are fulfilling their membership obligations, I don't see why suspensions and fines are necessary. It's petty.

Eguller

Spuzz PGA Tour members are fulfilling their membership obligations

That.... might just be the problem. The details of PGA Tour membership reqs & obligations.
'Resignations' are a clue as to inside info. This is complex.

garyt1957

Spuzz Working together to try and keep their members/employees happy and not suspending them because they took a my way or the highway approach. They even adjusted the rules to allow it (less required DP Events for eg.)

The only reason they did that is all their decent players would have jumped to the US tour where the money and prestige is. They didn't do it out of any caring for their players.

Spuzz

Eguller might just be the problem

It is the problem.
How can the "best Tour to play golf on" have so many unhappy employees?
It is more complex now because the PGA has pandered to Tiger for so long, they don't have a plan B.
They played favourites for so long (letting him play when and where he wanted) and now they changed the rules to make the "stars" play in places they never played before or often, because they didn't want to.
I am guessing that's another part of the equation.
It's worked out for our Canadian Open, but I bet that's the exception.
The LIV Tour is for the over 40 guys (as I said before) and if losing those guys is what the PGA is afraid of, then they have a bigger problem than a half-assed exhibition tour stealing the limelight.

johnnydoom

If LIV really sucks it will go away on its own. Even people that can afford to throw away money will stop doing it eventually. I’ll admit I don’t really have any interest in tours outside of the PGA and LPGA tours, but those are my “home” tours.

As far as the blood money goes, I don’t know Khashoggi or his activities enough to know why the leadership wanted him dead. Being a dissident shouldn’t be enough to get you killed, but it does in many parts of the world and is largely ignored.

Eguller

Spuzz The LIV Tour is for the over 40 guys (as I said before) and if losing those guys is what the PGA is afraid of,

Yep, I think those guys are now persona non grata for the PGA Tour Champions also. (think Philly Mick, etc).

Spuzz

Eguller I think those guys are now persona non grata for the PGA Tour Champions also.

Assuming that the "names" on that the banned list were intending to play, how does banning them help the Champions Tour, which is crying for "names" to spice up that tour?
The answer is, obviously, it does not help.

Sneakylong

Eguller

The PGA Champions Tour is administered as a branch of the PGA Tour. The suspensions across all of the PGA Tour umbrella of Tours makes perfect sense.

The persona non grata policy shows consistency and the seriousness of how they view the LIV threat.

Bravopilot

Eguller Nobody cares, nor watches the Champion Tour.

Par4QC

Spuzz crying for "names"

They got the names. It's just to the point those with the 'names' are getting fitted again....for walkers/wheelchairs!! 🤣

garyt1957

Spuzz Assuming that the "names" on that the banned list were intending to play, how does banning them help the Champions Tour, which is crying for "names" to spice up that tour?
The answer is, obviously, it does not help.

Ain't that the truth, the only time I bothered to watch a CT event was when Phil played in a couple when he turned 50. You talk about a Tour of nobodies? The big names make too much money now to need to play on the CT

Spuzz

Par4QC names' are getting fitted again

LOL
There's the 57 year old guy playing this week ,who just qualified for the US Open after 35 years living in the bushes?
So they got that going for them.

garyt1957

Par4QC Keeping in mind, the players there really do not much like Americans. It's why you never see some of them come over. They have some very big names/multiple winners, that won't cross the ocean, even for the money here. I think that will play into any decisions as to letting these guys join up.

I really doubt dislike for Americans is why they're not coming over. Name me one DP Tour player who could move the needle that isn't playing here already. The ones who don't probably don't want to uproot their families. And may feel they can't contend.

DP World Tour Race to Dubai (06.06.2022)
#
NAME
NATIONALITY
POINTS
TOURNAMENTS
1.
McIlroy Rory
Northern Ireland
1979,1
4
2.
Hovland Viktor
Norway
1953,2
5
3.
Thomas Justin
USA
1946,3
3
4.
Zalatoris Will
USA
1702,8
3
5.
Pieters Thomas
Belgium
1645,2
7
6.
Fox Ryan
New Zealand
1299,4
10
7.
Larrazabal Pablo
Spain
1183,2
10
8.
Bland Richard
England
1060,7
9
9.
Meronk Adrian
Poland
972,8
12
10.
Arnaus Adria
Spain
970,5
11
11.
Smith Jordan
+2
England
932,5
11
12.
Lowry Shane
-1
Ireland
911,6
5
13.
Horsfield Sam
-1
England
906,3
5
14.
Hatton Tyrrell
England
839,8
5
15.
Bekker Oliver
South Africa
819,5
14
16.
Wu Ashun
China
808,6
13
17.
Sharma Shubhankar
India
796,5
10
18.
Perez Victor
+6
France
787,6
8
19.
Olesen Thorbjorn
-1
Denmark
787,3
10
20.
Cabrera-Bello Rafa
-1
Spain
740,2
6
21.
Fleetwood Tommy
+1
England
740,0
6
22.
Lawrence Thriston
-1
South Africa
733,2
14
23.
Morikawa Collin
-3
USA
713,8
5
24.
Otaegui Adrian
-1
Spain
689,1
12
25.
Samooja Kalle
+61
Finland
682,9
12
26.
Ferguson Ewen
-1
Scotland
627,4
12
27.
Long Hurly
Germany
609,7
13
28.
Harding Justin
-2
South Africa
600,2
10
29.
Fitzpatrick Matthew
-1
England
581,7
3
30.
Soderberg Sebastian
-1
Sweden
579,4
12
31.
Hanna Chase
-1
USA
565,9
14
32.
Power Seamus
-1
Ireland
555,3
3
33.
Fisher Ross
-1
England
540,5
13
34.
Norris Shaun
-1
South Africa
516,0
6
35.
Hojgaard Nicolai
-1
Denmark
505,6
10
36.
Scott Adam
-1
Australia
503,8
5
37.
Paul Yannik
+1
Germany
474,8
13
38.
Besseling Wil
+66
Netherlands
474,6
13
39.
Ancer Abraham
-3
Mexico
459,3
3
40.
du Plessis Hennie
-3
South Africa

Par4QC

Sneakylong persona non grata

If anyone thinks that tag is hurting any of the players, they are not paying attention.

A lot of them have jumped ship and will reap a fortune, that they would never see on the PGA, or any other Tour. And, they do not have to play very often, be away from home. After all, it is 'just a job' for them, if you've done much reading about the players/listened to them yap.
If they manage their money, they do not have to manage their game. Last is 120K + they can play like crap for 54 holes and still be a part of the winning team, that will further line their accounts. 'New school' is not coming for fame/history, they are coming for money/financial stability, for life. As long as they don't go all dopey, and start hiring agents/accountants/etc., they will make a literal fortune in just 1 year.

Then again, I think very basic as to what would set up my life, if I were 1 of them. But even now, $1M should be able to set up even your grandkids, for life.

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