Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

Par4QC

Sneakylong The OWGR has long asked that tours have a 36-hole cut, play 72 holes (developmental tours are exempt from this rule)

I'm confused a bit, about these 2 excerpts in bold.
If 'asking', it is not a rule. If it's a rule, they are telling, not asking.
Which is it?

Sneakylong

Par4QC I'm confused a bit, about these 2 excerpts in bold.
If 'asking', it is not a rule. If it's a rule, they are telling, not asking.
Which is it?

The way I read it (it) sounds like a rule because they include the 72 hole criteria. Then they mention the exemption for developmental tours.

Stu1961

Sneakylong
I read a similar article… but those changes are about HOW points will be awarded not IF they will - which is all LIV is after. I really wish the article would have cited a source for the “mandatory (with approved exceptions)” criteria rather than the author just stating it.
Frankly, given who runs OWGR, I would think it easier for LIV to create their own ranking system (based off the established rankings of players when they left the PGA) and petition the majors directly based off those. The majors already accept entry from the senior tour and amateurs … both of which have their own ranking systems.
I would love to see the Masters (if their mission truly is to have the best field represented) offer invitations to LIV’s top performers - and even more importantly, openly defend their position of wanting the best-of-the-best as their reason for doing so. Just because players chose to leave the PGA tour does not mean their skills have vanished. If OWGR is flawed in its ability to still recognize and rank these golfer’s there’s no reason a major couldn’t establish new criteria to include them.

Sneakylong

Stu1961

That’s the whole issue. Whether LIV ever meets the criteria to get OWGR. As for the Majors. If I had to bet I’d bet that LIV players will be excluded from the Majors.

Just reading the tea leaves from what has been said by the governing bodies of the 4 Majors. And the fact that they’ll continue to fall down the world ranking points list.

The only ones that could get to play are past Champions. Unless they can come up with a way to exclude them as well.

Stu1961

The whole purpose behind OWGR was to produce a fair equitable system to rank the World’s best golfers. LIV has 13 who were ranked inside the top 50 (a typical number for inclusion in majors). The fact that these players rankings are dropping has nothing to do with diminished skills. The OWGR is failing golf - intentionally - because it is controlled by those who wish to maintain leverage over their work force (source of their billion dollar per year industry and their exorbitant salaries) … to keep them under their thumb. The LIV players are being used like heads on pikes. “54 holes”, “no cuts”, “less than 75 man fields” is all just distraction.
If the majors were to exclude proven qualified players - they would be cheating golf history. But I’m sure if enough pressure and/or money is applied “fairness” can be overlooked.

Par4QC

Stu1961 I'm curious to see what, if anything, The Masters does. They control everything associated with their tournament right down to the TV & commercials. They merely play by the rules of golf, not rules of the PGA. And it is by invite only; and I believe that to mean even past winners. It is a ton different than the other 3 majors. What they do, or don't do, may well set the trend.

"Phil is a three-time Masters champion and is invited in that category and many other categories......."

rsvman2

If they decide to exclude 13 of the world's top 50 players, will the majors really still be majors?

Par4QC

rsvman2 It's going to be egg-on-face if the Majors cut these guys out. Esp. if they are a Masters winner, who get automatic invites to the other 3. Doesn't say you have to be a member of anything/anywhere.

How will it look to the whole world of sports, if 'rules of exclusion' are added to 1 sport, perhaps the oldest sport, after 100's of years??

garyt1957

Par4QC I agree it would be a bad look for the Masters to cut out past winners just because they went to Liv. They could have retired and still played. Jack and Arnie weren't actively playing any tours and they were playing in the Masters.

Par4QC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/patrick-reed-slapped-in-face-with-pro-am-snub-for-liv-status/ar-AA125UwB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=45a36a63bf8948a9885f67e4e09dc476

garyt1957

Par4QC. Most guys would love to skip the pro am and interviews

Par4QC

garyt1957 My thought also. But Reed will never 'pass up a chance' to mouth off. 😄

Eguller

How about a little pot stirring......
Why do LIV player give a crap about so called Majors when it is all about the $$$$$$$ ? 🙄🤑

Par4QC

Eguller Legacy?? 🤣

Spuzz

Eguller Why do LIV player give a crap about so called Majors when it is all about the $$$$$$$ ?

...because it isn't ALL about the money.
That's the "look over here" distraction Monahan the Magician wants you to pay attention to.

KCee

Eguller Why do LIV player give a crap about so called Majors when it is all about the $$$$$$$ ?

The Majors pay a LOT too! And winning those may get them back some endorsement money.

johnnydoom

The majors can do as they wish, but I'm not going to watch if Cameron Smith is healthy and not invited to play. Doubt they'll miss me, but I won't miss them much either.

Eguller

KCee The Majors pay a LOT too! And winning those may get them back some endorsement money.

Counterpoint.... What does the most lucrative major pay ? Not $4M like the 1st LIV paid and you have to
play your ass off against strong fields - too much work. Endorsements ? Too hot to handle now....
Take the $$$$ and go have fun.

Par4QC

Eguller you have to
play your ass off against strong fields

Last I read is that LIV has 12 that 'were' in the top 50. Out of 48 players. And they have won A LOT of those 'strong field' Majors!
🤔 And no Amateurs to weaken the fields.
Not 'just anyone' can play LIV. No special exemptions.

Bravopilot

Eguller Before LIV, the Majors also gave the winner a 5 yr exemption on PGA Tour, doesn't take much for their game to drop, and a 5-year free pass is handy.

Eguller

Par4QC

Must be Spuzzer's Canadian air I'm breathing now - but...

38 of the top 50 are non LIV players. Not everyone gets in the Majors and almost everyone wants to play
in them, well.....with a couple of exceptions like the late Bruce L.. 😉

Par4QC

Eguller 38 of the top 50 are non LIV players.

Par4QC 12 that 'were' in the top 50. Out of 48 players

Let's be honest....the 12 and the 38 all got their ranking from watered down fields. And from limited fields, sometimes. Both which is BS. I'll not mention the sometimes 'revolving' changes in the OWGR for qualifications. Gonna have them?....set them in stone. Forever.

Was Jack ever ranked #1? No. Did he need it? Not on your life! 😉

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