Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

MartinD

Subsonic What about a match play situation? Last player standing is the best.

Golf isn't like other individual sports (tennis, for example) where the better player will win almost all of the time - even the very best players will lose an 18-hole match to an average tour player once every three or four times. There's not enough talent differential between the top players, and there's a lot of natural variation in scoring in golf (the putts that burn the edge versus going in, the approach shot that catches the right or wrong side of a mound...)

(By contrast, there are seasons where the top tennis players have won well over 90% of their matches - Connors had a 93-4 year, Federer 92-5, and Graf had a 3-year stretch where she won over 200 matches to 7 losses. It's a lot easier to determine who is the best player when they're playing that many matches, of course - how often do you get a true head-to-head matchplay situation in professional golf?)

ode

Stu1961 I think the tour made a mistake with moving the PGA earlier....if anything later would have made more sense to keep guys playing through it and then some bigger fall events leading to the TC. They have ruled out a lot of colder weather states/courses for the PGA too!

Subsonic

Par4QC That’s what I am talking about.

Spuzz

Par4QC a season long thing

Take the top 8 guys based on cumulative scores of common events and then match play?
1 vs 8 etc?
Forget the round robin thing, which is another garbage format btw.

darpar

Stu1961 Fedex was never about actually trying to determine who was the season ending "champion". It was contrived because the tour was having difficulty getting sponsors to sign up for events held in the late summer and fall (post Majors) as the top tier talent had already made their millions and were not signing up to play those tournaments. Simple solution = throw $%&# load of money at them. Trace of irony in retrospect.

This pretty much sums up the Fedex Cup, with $15 mil on the line it makes showing up more often and
playing well a HUGE incentive.
I have no problem with the format, it's basically a process of elimination, play well enough to qualify for the next round
you move on and advance.
Same thing happens in just about every other sport, team and individual.
More interest is generated after the last Major is played, instead of the usual "Who Gives A Crap Open" etc. IMO
As far as 'Best Player' goes, does it mean when someone wins The British Open and is called
"Champion Golfer of the Year", is it him?

Sneakylong

darpar

I look at it as a season long points competition that culminates in a playoff system to determine a FedEx Cup Champion. It adds meaning to the year long season in addition to the Majors.

Similar to the major team sports that play a long season and have a playoff system to determine a champion. Without a playoff system they would just crown the team with the most wins at the end of a season. Boring.

So they copied another individual sport NASCAR where season long points are accumulated and they crown a champion at the end of the season.

They screwed it up for several years before they got it right. It you remember early on Bill Haas won the FedEx Cup and had no idea he had one. 🙄 They had Steve Sands at a board explaining the different scenarios etc.. lol

They needed something just like other sports where the season meant something. Call it whatever. It’s all semantics. Lombardy Trophy, Stanley Cup, FedEx Cup etc., it designates a season long champion.

johnnydoom

I watch the FedEx tournaments just like any other tournament throughout the year. The payoff is great for the players, but there is nothing special or playoff like about it. Maybe after it's been around for awhile it will become a tradition of sorts like the playoffs in other sports, but right now it just feels like an add on to generate revenue.

Sneakylong

johnnydoom

I think all playoff systems are revenue generators. Team sport owners love to have home games.

That said they could still tweak the FedEx Cup playoffs to make it better. For awhile there a person could skip one of the playoff tournaments and still win the FedEx Cup.🙄

Sneakylong

sdandrea1

Glad to see Rickie hasn’t sold out to the Saudi’s (yet?). Always liked Rickie. Hope he finds his way out of lost and found.

So far his ‘legacy’ is intact. Lol. And for all us non professional athlete mere mortals, legacy isn’t necessarily how much money we made in our lifetime, but were we a decent person, i.e. good father, husband or friend etc.. 😉

Eguller

Sneakylong That said they could still tweak the FedEx Cup playoffs to make it better. For awhile there a person could skip one of the playoff tournaments and still win the FedEx Cup.🙄

It's even worse on the 'Senior' Tour - One year, Bernie won everything and some duffus won the last
event to win it. Langer Rule. 🙄

Spuzz

Eguller One year, Bernie won everything and some duffus won the last
event to win it. Langer Rule. 🙄

He won 2 of the 3 "playoff" events and finished Top 20 on a course that doesn't suit him and lost
LOL
Cheater long putter Scott McCarron is the doofus I believe.

Eguller

Spuzz Cheater long putter Scott McCarron is the doofus I believe.

Agree....LOL....that is what my wife calls him. 🤣

Subsonic

Spuzz Should wins by golfers using long putters even count? Who would want the Legacy of being known as old Broomstick Billy?

Sneakylong

Subsonic Who would want the Legacy of being known as old Broomstick Billy?

Haha. Well in Bernhard Langer's case if he were to die on a park bench tomorrow, the opening line of his obituary would be two-time Masters champion. That's the opening line of his professional golf legacy. I doubt anywhere in the obit would there be mention he used a broomstick putter. lol

Eguller

Anchor Andy. 🙃

Subsonic

Eguller Right? Who wants to be known as a Long Putter Larry?

sdandrea1

Subsonic Right? Who wants to be known as a Long Putter Larry?

PGA : Mr. Mcarron, you're not allowed to anchor the grip of your putter against your chest. That is cheating. Stop it.

Dufus McCarron: I'm not anchoring. It just looks like I am.

PGA: Ok, then. Carry on.

ode

Bernie Lanchor is the champion of cheaters😉

Mattyv

ode

Ok, strange Bernhardt story. I was working for a compny about 8 years ago. I was the "new" controller and the gal that I replaced was in town and my whole team went out to lunch with her. She was probably in her mid 50's. Anyway she is talking to everyone and said she was kind of dating some golfer on the Senior Tour. Being a curious golf fan, I asked who it was. Bernhardt Langer she replied. I got back to my office and looked up Mr. Langer on the googles and it indicated that he was a married man of many years with no mention of a pending divorce. So, was she telling fibs, or is Mr. Langer the king of cheaters?

Subsonic

Sneakylong Maybe to you. I think to the rest of us there will always be an * next to those wins.

Sneakylong

Subsonic Maybe to you. I think to the rest of us there will always be an * next to those wins.

Haha. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if in his obit they use an asterisk. lol I doubt it though. Same with Wes Simpson and Keegan Bradley.

Opening line in their obit is U.S. Open champion and PGA champion. That’s their professional golf legacy.

No mention of belly putters. Because just as with Bernard it was legal when they won.😉

Eguller

Subsonic I think to the rest of us there will always be an * next to those wins.

Then, what to do about Sam Snead, the all time win leader ? The PGA even banned him
from a putting style. As long as they comply with 'current' Tour rules, I suppose there
would be no * 🤔

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