Sneakylong Let me just say this. I was a huge Boston Celtics fan growing up in the 1960’s. Back then many players had offseason jobs. They weren’t playing for a lot of money. The money wasn’t that great.

Loved the Celtics too, but I get the feeling you want athletes to keep suffering and not make any money. We respect the hell out of people that came before us that had to work really hard to achieve what they did, but can't we be happy that now later generations don't have to kill themselves as much?

My kids have a great work ethic (well my oldest any way lol), but I hope they don't have to work as hard as I did (and still am) to have a good life. Sadly it seems like they may have to work even harder. Yes athletes from the bygone era had to work hard for not much pay, but I'm sort of happy owners, leagues, etc are sharing the wealth a bit more now. If only we can get greedy corporations to do the same for engineers, factory workers, accountants, et al.

      Sneakylong Because it’s unlikely LIV can be profitable without a large broadcast deal.

      Well, perhaps they registered as a Non-Profit. It does seem to work well.
      🤔

        KCee

        Just to reiterate. 🙄

        Not at all. I’m all for getting as much money as you can. I’m all for NIL’s in college football for example.

        I’ve stated if Bezos or Musk were behind LIV I’d have no problem. I would still think players would be lessening their legacies etc..

        I agree with Paul McGinnley that the business model in Pro golf will probably change to guaranteed money. Not sure as a fan I like that. But it seems inevitable.

        Other than that I think everyone knows where I stand. I didn’t realize I was so ambiguous.😏

        And I’m not sure this is the forum for the discussion of economics policy where imo the redistribution of wealth to the top incomes has been going on for far to long.

        Yes, I’m all for demand side economics (opposed to supply side / trickle down). Put the money in the hands of the masses and have a bottom up economy.

        Progressive tax policy instead of regressive tax policy etc.. A job is created because there is demand for a good or service and not because a rich person gets a tax cut etc..

        Oops, I’m gonna get accused of self righteous ivory tower opinions again if I’m not careful. Aka as a strong take. 😉

            Sneakylong Pro golf will probably change to guaranteed money. Not sure as a fan I like that. But it seems inevitable.

            Might not be such a bad thing, having a bigger incentive for the top players to play more tournaments. I don't watch many of the tournaments, like the one going on this week, due to all the absolute 'has-beens' that can jump in.

            And I don't get the 'too many tournaments' some say they play too much of. A 'job' is normally 52 weeks/year, as I've learned. No matter what it pays.

            I'd like to see the 'sponsorships' banned. It makes players lazy, or so it seems. Companies want advertising, spend it through the public areas/media. Hell, most of those guys don't give a shit about the companies they rake money in from , anyway. They only care due to their bank accounts. They would then have more time to 'work', (see: play tournaments).

            Plus, ProV1 balls would be cheap enough for GB members to buy, when not lining the lockers of the shills. 😄

                Subsonic Imagine how cheap they would be if Titleist was not putting 6 dozen in the lockers of those that use them, every tournament. Plus paying them to wear the stupid hats.
                They would ruin Top-Flite.....out of business. 🤪

                    Par4QC You need to call your contacts at Top Flite and work a sponsorship for Buzzards. Top Flite The official ball of the Buzz! What a Legacy.

                        Par4QC

                        I watch quite a bit of golf compared to some here. I watch all the Tours. I like watching the Champions Tour and LPGA Tour. Watched the Senior Open this morning.

                        I don’t see these Tours including the PGA going to a team format though. So if they went to a guaranteed money format it would take away from the current individual format from a fans perspective. From a competition standpoint.

                            Par4QC Stop it!

                            Speaking of exhibition, I read elsewhere that a return of Anthony Kim would really boost the LIV Tour.
                            I wonder if there is a loophole in his insurance settlement?
                            Apparently he still has game, albeit it's playing with his buddies and whatnot.

                                Imagine if there were professional golf teams just like football. When I say imagine it don't even think about it as a sport, but for tax purposes. Ownership of a pro sports team is supposed to be one of THE greatest tax write-offs ever. According to the IRS they all lose money each year lol. If the PGA Tour ever loses it's non-profit status, this could be the next logical step.

                                  KCee

                                  Interesting. But team sports are regional with a local fan base. Not sure how’d your do that in golf and generate interest. Would you have a draft so all the best players aren’t on the same team. etc..

                                  Not sure many would watch if you had blowouts every week by the same team. Dynasties are popular in team sports. Not sure it would work in golf.

                                  LIV has a team format. If they get a TV deal and get exposure then we’ll see if the team concept is palatable to those that watch.