Super League Predictions

Sneakylong That's a tradeoff they were willing to make. Why an asterisk? Their majors were won legitimately. The argument people here have been making is that they are throwing their legacies away. The thing all of them will most likely be remembered for is what they've won. If the PGA Tour goes down that is on Monahan's legacy, not the players.

Sneakylong Your argument is flawed. Tom CAN do it because he has the money and if it was about legacy he would have stayed with the Patriots. His time with the Bucs has did little to enhance his legacy. Would have been better to leave at the top of his game with the Pats. I am amazed that you know WHY Tom Brady plays football. If it was all about Legacy ol Tom Terrific should play for free.

Professional sports is all about the money. That is why they are professionals. In fact, that is what makes you forfeit your amateur status in most sports. Money.

I do find your view inspiring and uplifting even if misguided and wrong. I always have thought of you as a touch on the pragmatic side so all of this Legacy talk from you is refreshing.

Legacy....

noun, plural leg·a·cies.
Law. a gift of property, especially personal property, as money, by will; a bequest.
anything handed down from the past, as from an ancestor or predecessor:
the legacy of ancient Rome.
an applicant to or student at a school that was attended by his or her parent.
Obsolete. the office, function, or commission of a legate.
adjective
of or relating to old or outdated computer hardware, software, or data that, while still functional, does not work well with up-to-date systems.

leg·a·cy
NOUN
an amount of money or property left to someone in a will:

legacy
noun [ C ]
US /ˈleɡ.ə.si/ UK /ˈleɡ.ə.si/

C2
money or property that you receive from someone after they die:
An elderly cousin had left her a small legacy.

C2
something that is a part of your history or that remains from an earlier time:

legacynoun

money or property bequeathed to someone in a will

legacynoun

Something inherited from a predecessor; a heritage

John Muir left as his legacy an enduring spirit of respect for the environment.

legacynoun

The descendant of an alumnus

Because she was a legacy, her mother's sorority rushed her.

legacyadjective

of a computer system that has been in service for many years and that a business still relies upon, even though it is becoming expensive or difficult to maintain

legacyadjective

left behind; old or no longer in active use

Legacynoun

Legacy is a particular thing given by last will and testament.

Legacynoun

a gift of property by will, esp. of money or personal property; a bequest. Also Fig.; as, a legacy of dishonor or disease

Legacynoun

a business with which one is intrusted by another; a commission; -- obsolete, except in the phrases last legacy, dying legacy, and the like

I'm going to stop for a breath. From what I'm finding, 'legacy' is being used as the person using it, sees fit. For the most part, totally incorrect.

It does mean money...............and guess who will have the richest legacies of them all, in the world of professional golf??

Sneakylong He’s playing for the love of football and to win championships.

More power to him, but that is not his legacy, by definitions I've found. That is merely his history, his accomplishments. His salary is his legacy, if there is any left when he passes away. If he's broke, sorry, no legacy.

Sneakylong Don’t sell yourself short.

Thanks for making my points for me. Tom could stay in New England because he Already had the money. Surely you can see that. Had he been married to a cheer leader he would have went somewhere else because he would have needed the money. He is the only QB in the NFL whose wife is the bread winner in the family.

You act as if King Arthur was riding into Gillette Stadium on a white horse to play. If it was about Brady vs Bellichik he could have left NE years ago and went to a better team. Could it be perhaps, that Tom was concerned most about providing stability for his family? Maybe that is his true Legacy?

Par4QC

Nope, nope and nope. Legacy is your accomplishments. Two time (1911- 1912) U.S. Open winner John McDermott was institutionalized with mental illness for most of his life after his accomplishments.

The story goes many years later his sister took him to a U.S. Open. He wandered away from his sister and was in the Pro Shop and the person working went over and was going to escort him out.

Arnold saw what was happening and recognized McDermott and went over and said this gentleman is a back to back U.S. Open champion and he is my guest today.

Palmer recognized McDermott because of his accomplishments / legacy and not because he did or did not have money.

Subsonic

Nope. You clearly are not up to speed on this. I explained why he stayed and why he left. But believe what you want.

I find it quite humorous that you think you know what your talking about. Lol

So if Barkley is playing a pro-am, dining with the shark, all while still having 2 or 3 yrs left on his TNT contract, looking at the LIV, how does that work? How much money are they offering him?

TNT considering broadcasting LIV tournaments?

Barkley would make 3 media announcers of recent if he joins LIV.

johnnydoom Don't know anything about the personal lives

and if you did, and you were part of today's cancel culture, you would be attempting to cancel their legacy right now.
This applies to the owners and how they made their riches (across all the major sports) as well.
The HOF's would be on fire right now.
Yet, they aren't, because it's not part of the agenda for today and it's easier to hop on a slogan and ride that bandwagon in an attempt to be current and fit in with the like minded, as FOS as that may be.

I cannot eat one more kernel of popcorn.

Subsonic

Sorry you feel that way.

Sneakylong Don’t be. Opinions are like... well you know.

Subsonic Opinions are like... well you know.

Sneakylong Let me just say this. I was a huge Boston Celtics fan growing up in the 1960’s. Back then many players had offseason jobs. They weren’t playing for a lot of money. The money wasn’t that great.

Loved the Celtics too, but I get the feeling you want athletes to keep suffering and not make any money. We respect the hell out of people that came before us that had to work really hard to achieve what they did, but can't we be happy that now later generations don't have to kill themselves as much?

My kids have a great work ethic (well my oldest any way lol), but I hope they don't have to work as hard as I did (and still am) to have a good life. Sadly it seems like they may have to work even harder. Yes athletes from the bygone era had to work hard for not much pay, but I'm sort of happy owners, leagues, etc are sharing the wealth a bit more now. If only we can get greedy corporations to do the same for engineers, factory workers, accountants, et al.

Sneakylong Because it’s unlikely LIV can be profitable without a large broadcast deal.

Well, perhaps they registered as a Non-Profit. It does seem to work well.