Sneakylong It [LIV Golf] is an exhibition series, it's not proper golf. In golf tournaments we have cuts, that separates golf from other sports - if you play badly, you leave town early and get weekends off. Historically that's what it's about and people like to see that kind of competition."

WGC, Tiger's tournament, all no cut, all guarantee a paycheck, all award world ranking points.

The 3 day tournament existed as far into the 60s, the TV needed 18 holes on Saturday and Sunday. Still most of the 3 day tournaments were 72 holes, 36 holes the last day.

PGA Tour plus Marketing did away with the 18 hole playoffs, rearranged the order players are sent out among other changes. good/bad not sure.

    johnnydoom Forgot about DeChambeau. Assuming he fully recovers, he is pretty elite.

    Brooksie is a late bloomer and cut his chops on the Euro Tour.
    The PGAT did not care about him until he won a Major. He does not owe the PGAT a damn thing.
    If he had not won any Majors, nobody would care. His career earnings outside of the majors is not high.

    Dechumpo is the only guy in his prime, but he's outside the box as far as marketing goes.
    Too outspoken and polarizing for the suits on tour.
    Same with Reed.
    Ancer is too short off the tee to compete for big money in the Majors, and he knows it.
    He comes from poor means so this is his guarantee to cash in.

    Age does not equal Prime. It's different for everybody, regardless of somebody's attempt at an expert opinion.
    The above chart is so irrelevant I don't know where to begin. Total cherry picking BS.
    And not everybody cares about legacy, tradition or lining other people's pockets off their own sweat.

    The more I read, the more I hope Cam Smith jumps ship.
    I would like to see the R+A tell him he's not invited back to defend next year.

      Sneakylong Stenson reneging on his contractual obligations to the Ryder Cup.

      How did he do that? They removed him before he signed. LIV Tour was 'giving him permission' to continue to do his duties as needed/when needed...... no penalties/banning/ fines, etc..

      Henrik and Fanny have a foundation to keep funded/run. And he has a family to support. That, is his life, not the Ryder cup, nor the PGA-DP Tours. Those speaking against him are the assholes. Nasty ones, at that.

          Spuzz He can't make that decision on his own, I'll bet. Probably have to talk with 'certain people' in Japan 1st.😉

            johnnydoom Wonder how Charles Barkley's negotiation is going?

            Just read where he is in the next tournament. Bedminster, iirc? Pro-Am.
            No full offer as yet though.

              If the PGA Tour didn't have something to offer, why would the world's best want to come to America to play?

              Go make the kind of money in Europe that they make in the states. And it has been like this for 25+ years.

              Let's not pretend the PGA Tour pros are getting dicked in the ass. Because they are not.

                If nothing else, all this noise is revealing the content of everyone in the professional golf world's character.

                  PA-PLAYA How much does a win pay, in Europe? How much do the players make from sponsorships, in Europe, that never came to the U.S.?

                  Yeah, that's why ANYONE came here...for money. Oh, but that is so fucking wrong!!???

                    Eguller revealing the content of everyone in the professional golf world's character.

                    Not just there.
                    😉

                      PA-PLAYA Let's not pretend the PGA Tour pros are getting dicked in the ass. Because they are not.

                      Depends on your point of view, and that view is mostly from the outside looking in.
                      Most of the derogatory comments are not coming from the LIV guys.
                      It's the PGA guys sounding like an ex girlfriend that whines "how could you leave me after all I've done for you?"
                      The usual answer to that is " I left because of what you didn't do for me"
                      🙂

                        Par4QC

                        How about Stenson reneged on his verbal commitment to being the Ryder Cup Captain. Better? Still shows a lack of character / integrity imo. 😏

                            Sneakylong And how was that? He was Captain until they terminated him. He did nothing until after that was done, and had fully intended to fulfill his obligations, even if joining LIV.

                            I don't think you are reading/seeing anything except what you want to read/see. Quit being so political. If you cannot be, then don't post it here. We are all reading/seeing EVERYTHING. From both sides.....and yes, there are 2 of them. So far.
                            You could never be 'like Steve'. A Mediator.

                            I see the PGA's point. I see the LIV player's points. And whether people like you want to believe it or not, there is a successful middle ground that would benefit both sides.

                            I also see the hate coming from the Political people. BTW. 😏

                                sdandrea1. DJ is still very good. Prime? Probably not but still a force. Bryson is still in his prime if he gets over his injuries. He's sub 30.

                                  Par4QC

                                  He insinuated he had signed a contract. He specifically said the captain is the only one who signs a contract.

                                  Either way, whether he signed or not he’s not in compliance with the terms to be captain. Thus he got the boot.

                                  This is cut and dry. Too political for ya?😏 How about you have your opinion and don’t tell me what my opinion should be.

                                  I don’t see both sides to this at all. In case you can’t tell. And just a hint. The Saudi’s financing LIV is political. 😉

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/21/inside-the-pga-tours-lobbying-effort-against-saudi-funded-liv-golf.html

                                      I think my Dad’s sage advice applies. Never judge a man till you have walked a mile in their shoes.

                                      These guys are playing another tour. Nothing more, nothing less. Trust the story and see how it plays out.

                                        Sneakylong He insinuated he had signed a contract. He specifically said the captain is the only one who signs a contract.

                                        My reference is to a LIV contract. He was signed to the RC contract, and had been doing the job already.

                                        It was nothing more than the PGA firing the European RC captain; plain and simple. Monahan=Trump on 1/6=Pied Piper.
                                        Simple connections. Simple(ton) politics.