johnnydoom

LIV is an other Tour. Clear as day

“The successful candidate will be expected during his tenure to commit to supporting the Ryder Cup and the DP World Tour exclusively, and therefore, by extension, not supporting or promoting other properties [including, without limitation, other Tours, Leagues, Series or Competitions].”

    garyt1957 Is Stenson whining?

    No, his public statement clearly says he accepts the decision although he disagrees with it.
    No whine there.
    The whine is coming from the PGA Tour idjits, yet again, with Cheater Sink opening his dumb yap.

    Sneakylong Interesting. So the European Ryder Cup Captain can't even play in PGA Tour or charity events for the duration of their tenure. I would've never guessed that to be the case.

    I'm being a bit silly now, but you have to with reporting these days. Is the information in the brackets [ ] actually in the contract, or is that "context" added by the author as it usually is when brackets are added to quotes?

      johnnydoom Interesting. So the European Ryder Cup Captain can't even play in PGA Tour or charity events for the duration of their tenure.

      That's never been the case before.
      Harrington was out and paired with the younger potential Cup prospects trying to get to know them better.
      Pretty sure it's been standard procedure for a long time.
      (Stricker did it too)
      IMO, if it's such a great gig to have, why isn't Harrington willing to do it again?
      Answer:
      Because it's not, especially if you lose.

      IIRC the Ryder Cup participants were not paid years ago. Wasn't it 20-25 years ago the players were "whining" that the RC generated a lot of money and they got none? I think that changed, but I don't know to what extent. I also seem to recall that the captains were not paid directly, but did receive expenses for travel, et al. Obviously participating in the event gives you more fame that could generate income for you afterwards. Joe Public sits back and thinks "well they are already millionaires that should play for pride and for their country" while someone is collecting a boatload of money behind the scenes.

        https://www.skysports.com/golf/ryder-cup/news/26733/12656397/tony-jacklin-on-fears-ryder-cup-legacy-is-done-and-how-liv-has-left-golf-in-a-big-mess

        Tony Jacklin on fears Ryder Cup legacy 'is done' and how LIV has left 'golf in a big mess'

        "Ryder Cup Europe are to announce a new captain "in due course", following Henrik Stenson being stripped from the role after joining LIV Golf; Four-time Ryder Cup captain Jacklin says "anybody that loves golf should be concerned" over the current divide within the game."

        "The Ryder Cup legacy right now, as it sits, is done," Jacklin told Sky Sports. "We're not going to have a Ryder Cup and we're not going to have a Presidents Cup as we've come to know them - it's a mess.

        "If Greg Norman's idea was to screw things up for the PGA Tour, then he's done it pretty good," Jacklin said. "The PGA Tour has said that if it's money contest, they can't compete and they can't just dig another hole and a billion dollars pop up.

        "It's a complicated mess, but ultimately, they need to get around the table as quickly as possible and sort this job out. I'm not sure if everything can be amicable anymore, that's my biggest problem. There's huge concern everywhere and anybody that loves golf should be concerned. I don't think anybody at this point in time knows what the outcome is."

        "It [LIV Golf] is an exhibition series, it's not proper golf. In golf tournaments we have cuts, that separates golf from other sports - if you play badly, you leave town early and get weekends off. Historically that's what it's about and people like to see that kind of competition."

          Sneakylong Historically that's what it's about and people like to see that kind of competition."

          And, historically, that highly competitive golf produces the best golf for the spectator. IMO.

          Tony Jacklin sounds like an old codger whine bag to me.
          Until somebody significant, in their prime, leaves either tour, then what's the big deal?
          Seriously, these has beens that are commenting about other has beens is childish and needing of attention.
          Norman isn't screwing anything up.
          The reactions from the idjits in charge of both major tours is what's being screwed up.

            Spuzz Until somebody significant, in their prime, leaves either tour, then what's the big deal?

            I keep coming back to this. Has anybody left the PGA Tour for LIV in their prime? Mathew Wolfe, maybe?

              sdandrea1 Mathew Wolfe, maybe?

              He has mental issues, so that's a big maybe.
              Having less stress to achieve results may see him return to form, but, imo, that was not going to happen on the PGA Tour anytime soon. He was more likely to lose his card first.

              It also comes down to a lot of arrogant assholes trying to project their own views and opinions onto somebody else's life. Sound familiar?

              sdandrea1 You could argue that Ancer is in or approaching his. Reed is still in his prime. DJ is still potent but seems to be slowing down, and Koepka's recovery is uncertain. Everyone else is like almost everyone else.

                The PGAT response is indicative that they were caught napping. They are not used to competition or what it feels like to be competitive. Stop making accusations and focus your efforts on improving and becoming THE BEST professional golf tour.

                Forget the Ryder Cup. I want to see a PGA vs LIV Cup. Settle it on the course as it should be.