“I do think it's different in Henrik's case, yes. He signed a contract not to do that and was specifically asked not to do that.”
That's an interesting quote of Harrington in the article. Did Stenson actually sign a contract saying he wouldn't join LIV?
There is a school of thought that Stenson used his Ryder Cup Captaincy as a bargaining chip to get more Saudi money. 
Eguller As I said earlier, Stenson knew and chose his own fate as to the Ryder Cup, etc. - now live with it.and
stop whining.
Is Stenson whining? I haven't heard anything about that. If he is, then yea too bad everybody here knew he would lose the captaincy if he went LIV. Hard to believe he thought otherwise. But like I said, I haven't heard any of that
johnnydoom That's an interesting quote of Harrington in the article. Did Stenson actually sign a contract saying he wouldn't join LIV?
Posted this earlier. Stenson violated his contract. Pure and simple.
“There's been a lot of speculation back and forth, but I am fully committed to the captaincy and to Ryder Cup Europe and the job at hand,” Stenson said then. “The captain does sign a contract. He's the only one that does that. Players and vice captains don't. But the captain has an agreement, and those agreements are between Ryder Cup Europe and the captain, so I'm fully committed to my role as a captain and working hard toward the result we want in Rome.”
“The successful candidate will be expected during his tenure to commit to supporting the Ryder Cup and the DP World Tour exclusively, and therefore, by extension, not supporting or promoting other properties [including, without limitation, other Tours, Leagues, Series or Competitions].”
johnnydoom Looks like Jason Kokrak has joined the dark side
Sneakylong There is a school of thought that Stenson used his Ryder Cup Captaincy as a bargaining chip to get more Saudi money.
Got a link to that school of thought? Hard to believe the LIV backers would be so naive to think he would keep the captaincy if he switched.
No link, just heard someone mention it on the radio. An almost (lol) Ryder Cup captain is a big get for the Saudi's.
Sneakylong Yeah, but did the contract really state that he couldn't join LIV as a condition, is Harrington lying, or is the article fake news? It would seem an odd thing to put into a contract back before March when they didn't announce that LIV players would be banned from the team until a few weeks ago, but if true it would interesting to know.
LIV is an other Tour. Clear as day
“The successful candidate will be expected during his tenure to commit to supporting the Ryder Cup and the DP World Tour exclusively, and therefore, by extension, not supporting or promoting other properties [including, without limitation, other Tours, Leagues, Series or Competitions].”
Sneakylong Did I misread one of the articles? I didn't see that statement in either one of them.
johnnydoom Did I misread one of the articles? I didn't see that statement in either one of them
That was from this article from July 18th that I posted a link to. Here it is again.
"Corrigan points out that this agreement includes specific LIV language:"
When's the next event?
Sneakylong Interesting. So the European Ryder Cup Captain can't even play in PGA Tour or charity events for the duration of their tenure. I would've never guessed that to be the case.
I'm being a bit silly now, but you have to with reporting these days. Is the information in the brackets [ ] actually in the contract, or is that "context" added by the author as it usually is when brackets are added to quotes?
johnnydoom Interesting. So the European Ryder Cup Captain can't even play in PGA Tour or charity events for the duration of their tenure.
That's never been the case before.
Harrington was out and paired with the younger potential Cup prospects trying to get to know them better.
Pretty sure it's been standard procedure for a long time.
(Stricker did it too)
IMO, if it's such a great gig to have, why isn't Harrington willing to do it again?
Answer:
Because it's not, especially if you lose.
IIRC the Ryder Cup participants were not paid years ago. Wasn't it 20-25 years ago the players were "whining" that the RC generated a lot of money and they got none? I think that changed, but I don't know to what extent. I also seem to recall that the captains were not paid directly, but did receive expenses for travel, et al. Obviously participating in the event gives you more fame that could generate income for you afterwards. Joe Public sits back and thinks "well they are already millionaires that should play for pride and for their country" while someone is collecting a boatload of money behind the scenes.
Tony Jacklin on fears Ryder Cup legacy 'is done' and how LIV has left 'golf in a big mess'
"Ryder Cup Europe are to announce a new captain "in due course", following Henrik Stenson being stripped from the role after joining LIV Golf; Four-time Ryder Cup captain Jacklin says "anybody that loves golf should be concerned" over the current divide within the game."
"The Ryder Cup legacy right now, as it sits, is done," Jacklin told Sky Sports. "We're not going to have a Ryder Cup and we're not going to have a Presidents Cup as we've come to know them - it's a mess.
"If Greg Norman's idea was to screw things up for the PGA Tour, then he's done it pretty good," Jacklin said. "The PGA Tour has said that if it's money contest, they can't compete and they can't just dig another hole and a billion dollars pop up.
"It's a complicated mess, but ultimately, they need to get around the table as quickly as possible and sort this job out. I'm not sure if everything can be amicable anymore, that's my biggest problem. There's huge concern everywhere and anybody that loves golf should be concerned. I don't think anybody at this point in time knows what the outcome is."
"It [LIV Golf] is an exhibition series, it's not proper golf. In golf tournaments we have cuts, that separates golf from other sports - if you play badly, you leave town early and get weekends off. Historically that's what it's about and people like to see that kind of competition."
Sneakylong Historically that's what it's about and people like to see that kind of competition."
And, historically, that highly competitive golf produces the best golf for the spectator. IMO.
Tony Jacklin sounds like an old codger whine bag to me.
Until somebody significant, in their prime, leaves either tour, then what's the big deal?
Seriously, these has beens that are commenting about other has beens is childish and needing of attention.
Norman isn't screwing anything up.
The reactions from the idjits in charge of both major tours is what's being screwed up.
https://golf.com/news/ryder-cup-winnings-what-players-get-winning-ryder-cup/
They get 0 compensation. But the PGA of America gives each player $200,000 to donate to charity. Half of which the player can designate.
