Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

Par4QC

Sneakylong I can't see DOJ saying you can't have any rules for playing on the Tour.

If you are not playing a PGA tourney this week, are you their employee? No. Why do you have to follow any rules for a company you do not work for?

The 'membership' requirement is what wins this for the PGA. Even if not a current employee.
Or, is it a 'requirement', to be a member, even though 'not employed'? That might be a problem for the PGA.

Sneakylong

Par4QC

I wouldn’t get hung up on ‘employment’. There’s criteria to becoming a member of the PGA Tour.

Meet that criteria you’re in. Once in you abide by the rules to stay. Don’t abide by them or meet other qualifications to remain, then you’re out.

Again, the issue seems to me to be can the PGA Tour have rules regarding the amount of tournaments you have to play and can they set a number for releases to play elsewhere.

If DOJ says yes to both then I don’t see a problem. If DOJ says no then there’s a problem.

But I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV. Lol

Par4QC

Sneakylong Going to be interesting, for sure. Too bad they won't have it on C-Span, "The Nancy Channel".😁

I don't miss seeing those guys play, some were distractions to the game anyway, but do understand their reasons for going to LIV. The Barbasol tourney last weekend was actually interesting, and had a great Sunday finish, regardless of the names of players/money involved. That's what golf is all about, imo. Not 'names' ...... just golf!

Eguller

If you didn't get a chance to hear Tiger's press conference, I think it is worth a listen on LIV especially.
Not a great Tiger fan, but he nailed the presser, unlike some of his more arrogant ones. More humble & realistic.

Spuzz

Eguller Tiger's press conference

I thought some of it was BS.
He took "guaranteed money" before he ever hit a ball as a PGA Tour pro, from a sweatshop company no less.
He's the last person to be yapping about anybody else's life decisions, motivations or whatever else, given his history.
He's just another rich Tour shill, so his opinion from his ivory tower means jack shit to the little people, and should hold no extra weight other than having an opinion like everyone else.
JMO!

Sneakylong

Eguller

I saw all of Tiger’s press conference. It was very good. First time he’s commented in depth on LIV. He basically said the same as has been said before that without world ranking points many will give up opportunities to play in the Majors etc.. Plus much more.

But this was far from Michael Jordon’s Republicans buy sneakers too comment. In the past Tiger was infamous for saying nothing when talking. He gave his opinion on Greg Norman and LIV in no uncertain terms. Very refreshing seeing him speak his mind.

I think Tiger realizes he’s been the face of Golf for 25 years and is now willing to take the mantel of leadership that Jack and Arnold were for the Tour in the past.

ode

Eguller +1

KCee

Even if the DOJ says there's a problem, nothing may happen. IIRC they ruled against the Tour in the 90's and yet, like the Teflon Don, the Tour came out unscathed. Supposedly they had such close ties to so many big shots that they didn't even get a wrist slap.

Edit: a much more golf knowledgeable buddy just told me there was no ruling against the tour. A bit of Googling shows there MIGHT have been a ruling against the Tour, but Finchem pulled out all the stops to try to make sure that didn't happen.

johnnydoom

KCee Supposedly they had such close ties to so many big shots

Hopefully it won't be a secret bargaining chip for the upcoming state visit. 👀

sdandrea1

🤣

Eguller

Spuzz thought some of it was BS.
He took "guaranteed money" before he ever hit a ball as a PGA Tour pro, from a sweatshop company no less.

That is why I’ve never bought any Nike product. Yes , his sponsor $$ was not clean either. It is a matter of degree IMO. However, it was a Tiger I didn’t expect to hear from. Beaten up and mellowed maybe.

Spuzz

Eguller Beaten up and mellowed maybe.

Maybe.
I see an out of touch rich guy, with no clue about the young-uns' personal situations, who expects them to have the same drive to win majors etc etc.
If you are doing a presser and you find yourself saying "I don't understand", that's your cue to shut up and move on to the next question, imo.

Spuzz

Eguller his sponsor $$ was not clean either

The source is not the biggest issue (I am not Mr. Morals like Sneaky), it's the fact he got guaranteed money before he even started. Same deal as the amateurs now.
He was LIV before LIV, and doesn't know it.
Times change but he seems to be stuck in the past.

Par4QC

ex. Patrick Reed.

A non-member may Monday qualify for a PGA tournament.

Any problems there? 🤔

And let's not go into that barred/banned/suspended discussion again. If he is not a member, he cannot be any of those things. It would be like someone telling me that I can't Monday quailfy....why would I be barred, I'm not a member?
Borderline discrimination, imo. If not directly so.

Eguller

Par4QC I can't Monday quailfy.

Maybe, but it will be interesting to see 'open' qualifying such as the US Open. Criteria changes ?

Par4QC

Eguller I just wonder what is stopping the ones that gave up their membership, from doing something like this? And, I really don't put it past some of them to 'test the system'.

They better not stop me! Waste of a lot of practice. 🤣

garyt1957

Eguller. I hope not. You may not like what these guys are doing but it's not illegal and the rules shouldn't be changed to eliminate them.

Eguller

Par4QC I really don't put it past some of them to 'test the system'.

Not sure what those fat $$$$ cats would bother unless a Major. 🤔

Eguller

garyt1957 You may not like what these guys are doing but it's not illegal

I don’t care at all - they can do want they want. Just accept the consequences of their decisions.
Based on the R & A telling the ungreat white shark to go away, all, but especially major qualifying will likely change. Their house, their rules.

garyt1957

Eguller. That's the point though. Why try to punish them by changing the rules? They've done nothing "wrong". It's The Open not the Somewhat Open. I totally get the PGA and DP trying to punish them but the majors should remain neutral. Well except the PGA Championship.

ode

garyt1957 it will mostly be a mute point moving forward as in IMO the LIV players level of play will suffer, in addition they will naturally no longer qualify at some point (less the major winners), even if the courts allow them to play. As I stated when this (LIV) first became a thing , these guys have essentially given up on their competitive careers and Tiger nailed it in his presser!

sdandrea1

garyt1957 It's The Open not the Somewhat Open

Giphy - Cracking Up Lol GIF

ptjn1201

I agree. Open should mean open. And I'm sure a few sponsors will try to give exemptions here and there -- should be interesting.

Eguller

ptjn1201 Open should mean open.

Many times it does. But, look at the qualifying criteria for the US Open for example. Full criteria is llsted
on the USGA website. It is more limited than most think. Monikers can be misleading.

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