Par4QC No criteria, except they have to be in the fw; how many of Bryson's actually get counted

Hate to blow some MORE holes in your convoluted way of thinking....😁

But THIS is the criteria for measuring PGA Tour driving distance per the USGA.
Definition of Driving Distance and Methodology of Data Collection
It is important to define the data which form the basis of this report. The driving distance is the total
distance measured from the teeing ground to the point where ball comes to rest – regardless of the
location (fairway, rough, bunker, putting green etc.) These data are collected on the major tours using
one of two methods:

  1. Tournament officials will measure incremental distances from the teeing ground which are
    then marked on both edges of the fairway of the hole(s) being used for the collection of data.
    These distance marks are then used by the player, caddie or volunteer collecting the data to
    determine the distance for a given drive.
  2. A combination of GPS and laser measuring equipment is used to directly measure the distance
    of each drive on a hole
    https://www.usga.org/content/dam/usga/pdf/RSI/distance-insights-2021-docs/2020%20Distance%20Report%2026-01-2021.pdf

      darpar OK, You win.

      In the meantime, I will watch the tournaments & see Bryson outdriven every round, by someone/several. As he has been every round this season. He is not the longest. There, I said it again. 😉

          Par4QC

          Look man. He gets out driven because he has to use his 3wood. His driver would go too far on most holes so he has to back down.😁

              Mattyv I share his misery. On some Par 3 holes I have to pull out the hybrid, and just forget about the driver.

                Longest ot not, his balls-out strategy is Mickelson-esque and is fun to watch. The only turn off for me is when he starts whining about rules officials and when he snubs his playing partners. He can be a dick.

                In regards to the walking or moving issue, one thing that really surprised me when attending events is how much movement is going on ALL THE TIME. Even at the Ryder Cup. I would think those guys would be more used to it and able to tune it out. I'm sure it makes a difference when it's someone close, or isolated movement away from the crowd though.

                  So I caught the clip of him asking Cantlay to stop walking. I didn't think it was that bad. I have asked people in my peripheral to move before. The way he asked didn't seem rude at all either. I think the announcers were trying to make a mountain out of an ant hill. I also don't like Bryson much, but this was a non event.

                  Ack8236 isolated movement away from the crowd

                  It kills me when one of them is ready to hit, then stops to motion someone aside.......180 yds. down, behind the green.
                  Why are they looking at the green, while hitting the ball?

                  If movements/noises, whether sudden or subdued, affect them that much, I hope they never work around power equipment/tools.

                  I'm always aware of my surroundings on a course. If there is a road behind me, off the tee area. I know that.... and I know there may be a motorcycle or heavy truck pass by; it's not going to affect me at all. Because, I'm aware of it possibly happening. Same with a train track within earshot. Courses have noisy gas carts still. There is always noise on or around courses, even if you are the only one out there.

                  Tiger's Dad brought him up making all kinds of noises when he was swinging, but still, it affected him as a Pro.
                  Because he became an ass, like all of them, in that regard.

                      Par4QC We're on the flight path to a local airport, it's probably < 2 miles as the plane/helicopter flies. Playing a team match once (4ball ties) and an opponent took offence at me lighting a cigarette during his preparation ... I burst out laughing and asked him if he wanted me to shoot down the helicopter above us heading to the airport. Dickhead.

                          Par4QC I'm always aware of my surroundings on a course.

                          I try to be aware everywhere! I used to not like noise/movement while playing. Probably because we were taught that's the way it's supposed to be. Back when I played a bunch of scrambles, I realized sometimes there's just going to be distractions. After that change in mindset, I'm able to go through my swing routine with just about anything going on around me.

                            golf_bhoy 1 course I play is in a county Forest Preserve, complete with gun range for the co. sheriff dept., and it is also just 1/4 mi. south of the int'l airport. Another has a 'estate compound' 1/2 encircling the course, where the owner has a skeet shooting range, and they shoot those shotguns almost every day; the echoes throught the woods are quite loud of course. A couple others are built right along very busy 4 lane streets. Can think of only 1 in the area that is really off the beaten path, but it is now closed for good, yet, had a highway running past it also. Life is noise. Get used to it PGA.

                                It's not about noise per se but a sudden noise can mess with you. I don't care who you are, if I yell at the top of your swing it's likely to bother you. But I don't care if people are talking around me.

                                Par4QC

                                For some reason I can block out planes, trains and automobiles, but if some mf'er drops a tee on the ground next to the tee box during my swing it totally bugs the shit out of me.

                                    Par4QC if they have such a problem with noise, how in the hell did they play Augusta?? Even on the tv I heard more sirens in an hour than I did in a day any place I've ever lived or stayed the night.

                                        Walterjn They also play 1 course where a train runs very close by, several times daily.

                                          Mattyv but if some mf'er drops a tee on the ground next to the tee

                                          Or the bastage that insists on wiping off his ball, while waiting his turn.

                                              My only ask is that people in my 4some let me have the teebox and be quiet while I'm hitting. Can't stand it when players get up on the box and stand in my periphery. Just stand behind me and shut up for 10 seconds. Thank you.