IMO....

Eguller

KCee If you want a decent rangefinder cheap, I have an older but still excellent Bushnell 1500

Buzzer-osity. 👍😎

sdandrea1

Eguller Buzzer-osity. 👍😎

This forum is awesome.

sdandrea1

KCee If you want a decent rangefinder cheap, I have an older but still excellent Bushnell 1500 slope. I won a newer unit and I'm more of a gps guy myself so really no need for either.

PayPal sent. Thanks Kevin! Back to Original Topic.😎

Par4QC

sdandrea1 The commercial/infomercial breaks get better every day though! 🤣 We need the breaks sometimes.

Toulon

sdandrea1

Let's get right back to hammering each other! All in love. 😂

sdandrea1

Toulon All in love. 😂

I love all y'all. 😍

That's southern talk for "everyone ".

Toulon

sdandrea1

You might not think it and/or might not care, but I love y'all, too!

Sarnella

Good grief - now y'all got me sobbing on my keyboard.

livegolf

Like any country there are quite a few problems in the US. Not sure giving people some handout money to stimulate the economy is the worst thing, but if it leads to something like what is seen in Venezuela then possibly as it puts most of the population at risk.

Besides what azgreg listed I see the outdated transportation and infrastructure network as something pressing for the next generation. Someone build me a road network where I can be automatically driven around while sipping wine in the back seat!

livegolf

sdandrea1 ugh. Thise things need a self destruct button lol

Fish

It is blatantly obvious throughout recent history that giving people free stuff is not in their best interest. This "quick fix" just perpetuates the problem (and gets votes). I always thought that they should give the most cash to those who work full-time at low or minimum wage. Encourage people to put in a hard day's work, not to sit on their ass and smoke cigarettes while their 3 kids are in day care and they only have to pay $5 a week on (and they are 6 weeks over due). This is very specific, but my cousin-in-law runs a daycare and this is exactly what happens.

Toulon

Fish

I'd written a lengthy and way too personal resply to this. All I'll say is I now have a fresh perspective on the allure of dependency. Something I would've never gotten minus the pandemic. I see the positive and the poison involved in the government carrying citizens as it has carried me and millions like me who lost jobs back when this first started.

DC300

Fish I think if we wanted to give hand outs, we could have looked at something like they pulled way back in the US and offered jobs to those who would go out and plant trees on state land, etc. I’m not going to chase this down the rabbit hole the way I want to, but there is absolutely no reason we could not have used this situation to better the infrastructure with the man hours being supplied by those that needed work. We could have kept people working, paying them for actual benefit and improved the country instead of sending everyone into hiding.

The pork barrel bullshit that has been allowed in all of this, goes to show that no matter what side of the isle politicians claim to be on, they are all just pawns to the new mob and launder money to their masters. This country is about to implode as the last 3 generations have been taught to live the life of luxury without the grit to earn it. No offense to our neighbors in the north, but we are almost as damn stupid and weak as Canada at this point and it’s only getting worse.

wishbone

Toulon Ultimately, going to someone to be educated is abdicating your own ability and responsibility to be educated. This applies at a certain point for all of us. I can learn ANYTHING I want to and can be BETTER than anyone schooled at the finest university if I want to. When I choose to go to university, I'm saying I can't do it on my own, and need YOU to teach me. You grant power to those teaching you because it is likely they have an agenda for what they wish for you to know and believe.

I can say that for the most part, my education was take a position and defend it, not take this position and defend it using the things I have taught you.

And as far as anyone learning on their own and better than what any university can teach you, um, no. Some people are "limited" in what they can learn. Sure, an Einstein can happen, but there are more like Forrest Gump than Einstein. And second, you can spend all of your time chasing dead ends that have already been discussed, tested, and dismissed as not being effective.

Toulon

wishbone And as far as anyone learning on their own and better than what any university can teach you

This is HIGHLY dependent on the person. Of course, not everyone can do this. Not everyone can go through 4-8-10-12 years of university, either.

A very intelligent individual can learn as much, or MORE, than they ever could at a university with a narrow focus on what they teach.

I've been to university and broadcasting school. I've learned far more on my own than any insitution of higher learning could ever give me. The university is limited. It has only certain programs. Someone going off to be degreed in a particular field will be wanton in other areas because their focus is on one, or two, things.

I'm certainly not an opponent of education. I'm only saying that YOU carry the mail....not the university. It's on you to get out of it what they offer and find all the excess that they're never going to teach you given their scope. You might have a professor who does or doesn't want to teach Freud in psychology class. You may be indoctrinated with Freud one place and not exposed in another. You get to choose is all I'm saying. If I went to a school and they said we're not teaching "x"...I'm picking up "x" and reading all about "x".

IE: I'm a person of faith. Almost went to a couple of different Christian universities. Chose not to do that for several reasons. They weren't going to teach some of the things I wanted to understand and know about. I spent a year of my life holed up as a young man devouring things in a way I never have before or since. It makes my obsession with COVID look minor. I wanted to read all the non-canonical works. I got my hands on every non-canonical resource I could and spent time reading about other religions. I wasn't interested in just what I believed but what others believed and why. I had and still have so many questions. It's an endless pursuit. I would've felt cheated and bored out of my mind at a university teaching me cookie cutter Christianity. Not what I wanted for me. I've educated myself and feel very good about my personal investment into my study and value it more highly than I would've had I gotten a PhD in theology. ---and I know you don't or wouldn't in same spot, and that's fine with me. We all get to choose whose drum we march to.

sdandrea1

Toulon

University (education in general) is merely prep. You don't REALLY learn anything valuable until you apply knowledge, fail, get hurt, get fired, get up, go again. Life is the ultimate University.

Toulon

sdandrea1

I couldn't agree more, but you do have people who live to feel justified by their degree(s). It's a status symbol and a way to feel "superior" to others. If you don't have what they have, even though you're 3x more intelligent than they'll ever be, they'll cling to that as a way to raise themselves and diminish you, and I do get it.

Hang with The King and He'll teach you through living, like you said, more than you could ever imagine. Whether you apply the lessons taught is the issue. I've needed to be retaught way too many lessons. In many ways I'm not very bright. 😂

Sneakylong

Par4QC The biggest problem in the U.S. today is.....

$1,400 stimulus checks, $3,600 child tax credit and $300 unemployment check bonuses til Sep..

Prove me wrong! 🤨

No, the biggest problem is still wealth inequality. Plutocrat Nick Hanover can explain better that I can. Since Reagan there's been a redistribution of wealth to the top incomes thru regressive tax policy i.e. supply side / trickle down economics.

Also, from right after WWII until the mid 70's wages rose equally with productivity and inflation. With wages not keeping up along with tax policy the wealth gap has widened greatly. And here we are.

A job is created because there's a demand for a product or service, not because a rich person gets a tax cut. Demand side economics is what's needed. Put the money in the hands of the masses instead of a few at the top.. In a nutshell on a smaller scale and temporary that's what the stimulus money is doing (money in the hands of the masses).

But what's really needed is for wages to catch back up after falling behind for 45 years.
Now, there's a whole host of issues like globalization etc., but again what's needed are immediate wage increases for workers. And not a small one. lol

""Nick Hanauer is a rich guy, an unrepentant capitalist — and he has something to say to his fellow plutocrats: Wake up! Growing inequality is about to push our societies into conditions resembling pre-revolutionary France. Hear his argument about why a dramatic increase in minimum wage could grow the middle class, deliver economic prosperity ... and prevent a revolution.""

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/nick-hanauer-says-wealth-inequality-is-moral-failure-in-oxfam-report.html
""Super-rich early Amazon investor: Wealth gap crisis is the ‘direct result’ of ‘moral failure""

https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/
""The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%—And That's Made the U.S. Less Secure""

pike51

Let this sink in... Waffle House is closed from 7 pm to 8 am and all day Sunday. WAFFLE HOUSE CLOSED!!!

And I'm not talking a single location, I'm talking every location within a 50 mile radius. Apparently, a large majority of the staff quit because they make more money off stimulus and unemployment. They are doing on-site interviews and putting people to work in under 24 hours at $15 an hour or more here... and apparently, they can't find anyone.

Par4QC

pike51 The 1st poster that sees what I'm talking about! If you do not see how this correlates to everything else going on in the U.S., you are not understanding the circle, the trickledown effects. All the things azgreg mentioned have been added to during this time, and one would think it would be the opposite.

Living in poverty.....how does someone with 5 kids, living off the Gvt./unemployment, not have a higher income/assets that are way above that line of being "poor", today? And, they will be getting even more monthly income in July. Way above my pay scale, to be sure. It certainly looks like the gvt. is no longer responsible for those impoverished children....who is? Jobs/money are plentiful right now, everywhere it seems. How can there be any "poor"?

The homeless get the same money as everyone else did. A lot of free money....what did they do with it? They are homeless, the biggest %, because they WANT to be.

Gun deaths? Well, fuck me....how do you get guns without money....free money? The gvt. is putting guns on the table for free, imo...... choose your weapons.

garyt1957

pike51 Pretty much every restaurant around here has had to close for the occasional shift, day, week around here due to lack of help

DC300

Par4QC gun deaths only exist when there is a need for distraction in the media, let’s just be real. Forget that the biggest problems with guns come in cities with the strictest registrations against guns and the softest penalties for criminals, with the highest payouts of welfare. If you are honestly too blind to see it, we call you a Democrat.

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