Verticle grooves. Ho hum. Show me a verticle smile....

    Release

    R....all you speak of cost money. And it's not all that easy to find an attorney to work on contingency unless it's a deadlock cinch. Patent infringement is one of the hardest things to defend and then if you do win...years of appeals. Most go broke trying to defend.

        Bangoman

        I understand what you're saying and that is exactly why these large corporation could get away with what they do.

        There are attorney set their goal on either the fame or the potential pay-off. One would just need to search and find them. Easier these days if using the social media, which in turn might apply some pressure and result in settlement after the words gets out.

        I know the tactic of delaying the process, the useful life span of the product, the limitation of a human life and of course the looming legal expense all come into play. But we have social media now..... one could get attention quickly and cost almost nothing.

        Seriously, the idea or the product should be protected ( as we found out the patent right alone is not enough ).
        If someone being so naive to hand it over to a large corporation on the silver platter thinking they could use the corporations resources to promote their product and get compensated, is, like asking a tiger to guard your safety while you sleep.

            Bangoman my father's generation did have more faith in human potential being good.
            He told me even an evil person will have his good side. Judge by how you were treated not by their reputation. In other words, give everyone a chance.
            My generation is a mixed bowl. I had good and bad experience with my father's philosophy. There are just a handful of my acquaintance I could trust whether I like them or not, their words are trusted.
            My kids generation ? Most of them are dreamers.
            Aim high and often fell short. I hope they will turn out to be fine, as we were screw balls when we were young.
            As for having good faith in business ?
            Unless we are dealing with the like of Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus...... Best beware and not be too naive. Good faith alone ain't gonna cut it.
            Even if holding the right for patent they can steal it from you if the patent is not done air tight.

              Bangoman

              Yeah. a non compete basically requires the person under it not to challenge (granted there are circumstances, i.e., I can enforce the length of your severance package, but realistically not a day longer)

                R-.... Your children's ideas are what make them dream and they shouldn't be stolen by the sheer greed of others. It happens all the time but some rise above it all and survive to keep others dreaming the dream and that happens all the time as well.

                  Bangoman

                  Yes !
                  Most dreamers are just dreaming. They don't want to work and pay the price to have their dream come true.

                  The single most difficult step in realizing a dream is not having the idea which promise to make a big splash. It is to get the dreamer with the idea together with the venture capital needed to realize the idea.

                  Funding angels were plentiful in the late 80's and early 90's where venture capital searching for good ideas in all industry. Now the venture capital come from off shore instead of within the continent.

                    2 months later

                    It might lead DTG to rethink that green/black idea, at the same time. Theirs would make at least 4 out there.

                    3 years later

                    Vertical groves give an extra 10 Yds... Seriously!

                    colej He's definitely a whore, but how bad could it be if he was willing to bag it?

                        DC300 how bad could it be if he was willing to bag it?

                        He has bagged a Wilson Whale and a ceramic driver among others...draw your own conclusions.

                            All studies show that grooves on a driver have very, very little effect on .... well, anything to do with ball flight.
                            Remember the SMT 455db and all the discussion that ensured. Most grooves on a driver are superficial, cosmetic.

                              Eguller Remember the SMT 455db and all the discussion that ensured

                              I do. And I have 1 of those 'illegal smooth faced' drivers. 🤣

                                  Par4QC Eguller Remember the SMT 455db and all the discussion that ensured

                                  I do. And I have 1 of those 'illegal smooth faced' drivers. 🤣

                                  Just sold my 455. One of the best heads ever and after years of use it always looked like new. The paint finish was second to none. Absolutely the most beautiful head I’ve ever owned. I still have a 12 degree one in the rockstars bag. One day I’ll sell it and the eye 2’s to update his bag.

                                    shokosugi impressive stats with it. I doubt it's bad, but I also doubt the veritcal grooves do a damn thing other than interest people who like something different.

                                      Here's an excerpt from the patent of the Vertical Groove. It's complete claptrap.

                                      “The vertical grooves on the club faces of the present invention have a beneficial effect on the ball and tends to generate a forward top spin traction producing a straight-line trajectory. Having only vertical groove face configurations, the vertical groove concept of this invention minimizes adverse direction such as exaggerated slicing or hooking and produces a low trajectory boring ball flight with top spin and increased distance.”

                                        pellmell

                                        2 months in quarantine....... I'm tryin, I'm tryin real hard Ringo. hahaha


                                        “The vertical grooves on the club faces of the present invention have a beneficial effect on the ball and tends to generate a forward top spin traction producing a straight-line trajectory. Having only vertical groove face configurations, the vertical groove concept of this invention minimizes adverse direction such as exaggerated slicing or hooking and produces a low trajectory boring ball flight with top spin and increased distance.”