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They don't help with alighment. More BS. No groove pattern on the face of a Driver helps aligh with target. But something tells me they will do an info commercial as that is what they had in mind from the get go. So standby for shades of Jack Hamm Ode

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      Still have a couple B-Stings.
      Btw,the vertical grooves can slice/hook a ball just as well as horizontal grooves!! 😉

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        I had received several email for the Black Friday promotion.

        Wonder why they waited so long to market it.

          I think I've seen data indicating that any grooves on a modern driver are purely cosmetic. Not enough loft for the ball to "roll" up the face, and since there's no moisture involved in a teed up strike, grooves are pointless, no?

          So if it's purely cosmetic... Yikes. That ain't what I want to see.

            Bangoman

            You should know. :- )

            However in the age we're in right now, everyone seemed to believe in numbers compiled by unknown sources.
            This is as far as I had gone.

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              ZWExton

              We all want to believe the fairy tale and miracle, don't we ?
              The 15 yards longer model had sold a lot of drivers each model year until golfers got wised up.

                The only "stats" I'very ever seen re grooves and drivers were from bridgestone and one of their recent drivers which had micro grooves on the face and the claim was it helped with the ball not slipping on the face with mishits, reducing spin....now where the hell did I see the numbers? Dunno but will search.

                From wrx-

                http://www.golfwrx.com/270011/bridgestone-j715-460-driver/

                You know when it’s raining and your driver face gets wet, and you can feel the ball slip off the face and go astray? On most driver faces on the market today, this happens when it’s dry, too. When the ball slips around on the face during impact, it causes unwanted spin and amplifies the effect of off-center strikes.

                Bridgestone’s power-milled face (see it magnified above) is said to reduce that unwanted slippage at impact by adding friction, which enhances the quality of compression while the ball is on the face and reduces spin by 200-to-300 rpm’s, according to Bridgestone’s robot testing.

                  Balls 'slipping' on a driver's face, any club's face, is BS.
                  Grooves creating spin off a driver's face is also BS.

                  The ball is in contact with the face for 1/2 of 1 millisecond. .0004 seconds. Try timing that. With any watch/stopwatch.

                    That's 100% BS. The thing that ultimately causes spin is the friction between the ball and the clubface. If there was no friction between the clubhead and ball you wouldn't have any spin at all. The ball would just slide along the cubface and leave at whatever angle the face was to the horizontal and vertical.

                    A good example is flier lies where the ball leaves with less spin and added loft compared to a normal shot. This is caused by the grass decreasing the coefficient of friction between ball and club.

                    A common trick for the hustler in the old days was to use lubricant ( Vaseline ) on the driver face to produce longer and straighter drives.
                    Any foreign application on the club face is non conforming to the USGA rule. Must be a reason for banning the use of the lubricant ??

                      accufitgolf

                      We're talking of the use of persimmon woods and high spin wound balata golf balls . Maybe the lubricant had reduced the spin with the old equipment and given it an optimum launch angle ?