azgreg You guys can get as technical as you want but a 33° 9i is fucking horseshit.

Beyond horseshit..........

    Distance sells clubs to the folks who crave distance. I want accuracy, high flight and predictable distance.

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      sdandrea1
      I think our club has the T300 set to demo. they are also super strong lofted. I'll take it out and see what kind of flights I get. Because really I'm just talking out of my butt about this since I've never tried this kind of club. Get off my lawn and all that.

        Clubs today are sold by hitting balls of flat mats indoors with a machine calculating distance. It’s no secret that lower lofts create more ball speed. How does that iron work on an uphill, side hill lie in bare or fussy turf with a breeze? The original design of a set of irons giving a variety of lofts from 22 to 50 degrees at graduated lengths still offer the most useable arsenal in your bag. It was never easy learning to hit the longer clubs. Straight shots of a flat Matt indoors is the easiest shot in golf. When I play alone I practice all the shot. I drop a ball under some trees and practice knock down cuts or solid punch outs, I practice fades and draws. I hit plastic balls in my yard most every day hitting 3 and 4 irons. At 66 I don’t have the speed I once had, I need to hit a 4 iron at times from 160 and feel confident of getting on the green. There’s no substitute for greens in regulation to shoot a good score.

          DonM My buddy got fitted for T300 irons late last year. I don't think the fitting was all that good for him as he's hitting the ball lower and shorter IMO. He used to play some high launching wide soled irons that I think worked better for him. We would hit similar clubs back then, but now he's at least a club shorter and my Apex Pro 16 irons have got to be a couple degrees weaker.

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            KCee

            I thought it would be more than a couple of degrees but you got it right. Yours are 2 degrees weaker than his.
            I saw this all the time at the senior level in AZ last winter. These guys need HEIGHT!!!! They need traditional lofts and lengths, with the hot technology.

            If a guy can play hybrids well, like @sdandrea1 Steve, that is probably a lot better. Now that I think of it, I didn't see very many guys out there who seemed to play hybrids well. Nor here at home.

            • KCee replied to this.

              DonM I compare these to my Adams hybrids. I have a 28 degree 6 hybrid, 38.5". It really doesn't go any farther than a 28 degree iron, just higher.

              I have the same club, or at least something similar to it (Adams Idea Tech V3 with Mitsubishi Bassara shaft, Senior flex), and it has been a helluva club for me! It used to be my 150 club; now it's my 140, but it is MUCH easier for me to hit than a six iron, gets great trajectory, and I hit a lot of greens with it! I liked it so much that I found the matching 5 hybrid on Ebay and that too is very reliable!!

                fatshot
                Ha, I've got about 3 each of the 3 through 6 in the model I have. LOL. One each for here, one for AZ, and one just because. I gave them a month off for bad behavior. Now I figured something out so they are back in the bag. You're right, it's so easy to elevate them. Which is super important at my club here.

                fatshot A few winters ago, we discovered an Adams Idea Tech V3 7 hybrid at the driving range -- somebody must've left it behind. We tried it out -- was hitting high bombs with it. Looked it up, it was 32 degrees or something like that, and it was going 170. If I could get a set really cheap, I'd give them a try.

                DonM Yeah I don't think there's really anything wrong with the T300 irons, but my buddy probably should not have been fit into them. He's not a big hitter and tends to hit it relatively low. He wants nothing to do with hybrids though. He had one TM hybrid he bought off the rack and didn't like and now won't look at them. IMO he needed clubs that would help him elevate the ball and the fitter didn't lead him down the right path.

                DonM not a big fan. Hit one good, one dead left. I have quite a few and they all look like they point to left field. I use low or no offset irons so hybrids look way different at address.