What did you build today?
I screwed 2 irons together from my demo equipment to test outside on Trackman.
P790 7 iron with a MMT 105 stiff
P790 7 iron 2 degrees weak with a Recoil 780 smac wrap F4 flex.
Then I unscrewed them, switched them up and finally unscrewed them and put them away
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colej That MMT 105 is a totally overrated shaft, IMO. It’s stiff as hell due to the design and offers little to no feedback.
Hmmm… a bit biased there Xcalibur 105 salesman 
. Quite the contrary… I also hit the modus 105 that I’ve had in the Pings for years.
The MMT to me felt very smooth, ball took off from the face with tight dispersion and ball speed was better than any other shaft. There are people that say they play stiff… not sure. They do launch on the low side but peak height and stopping power is still fine. On Trackman I got the same roll out after carry as I did with the recoil. I’m on the fence about softstepping them… a tiny bit more height wouldn’t hurt.
The Recoil is too soft in the tip for me. Didn’t feel as solid as the MMT but the MMT with Metal Mesh Tech makes you feel like you have more control and can go after it without sacrificing accuracy. The recoils are a great shaft… a close second place finish but at 87 grams it’s also too light for me. A lot of lefts. Didn’t hit it high, just left a lot due to the profile of the shaft. The Modus 105 also is a “soft stiff” tip but the profile is good for me otherwise… it’s just with that tip my launch is 3-4 degrees higher than the MMT… I lose a lot with the modus.
I can post Trackman screen shots for each one but why bore you guys.
The funny thing is I really was excited about trying the p790 2 degrees weak. I was hoping for a little more spin and height ( instead of softstepping). What I found was higher launch, too much spin, not a higher peak height that I wanted. Also, loss of ball speed. It just didn’t make any sense for me.
I would love to have an xcalibur shaft with the TM tips we use for irons… that’d be cool to try.
There’s plenty of WRX guys saying the same thing about the MMT 105. The high swing speed guys say they’re great (MMT 125) and super stable. Xcaliber also has a shaft (brought out before the MMT) with a woven metal wrap around a graphite shaft. I don’t like the feel of it either.
If you worked work callaway you’d have access to AXE rapid taper shafts. They are in their fitting carts.
Wrx guys ONLY talk about MMT 125…. 
… and I bet only 10% have hit it. We have it in TX for some reason in the matrix., complete waste.
KCee My gripe with our graphite selection is it’s all light, 45-75 grams. Only thing heavier is the Recoil 780es F4 at 86 grams, the MMT 105 stiff at 105 grams and the MMT 125 TX at 125 grams.
Sucks.
I would much rather try the Recoil 95, Recoil Proto, Recoil 110. When I dial in the Recoil I was hitting I pick up more height and carry it another 6 yards. I really liked those numbers better than the MMT but I was more consistent with the MMT. Today I’m down in Cohassett for a fitting. I’m going to put a Recoil together and put it aside and hit it as often as I can. I wouldn’t mind getting used to that over the MMT
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Typhoon My gripe with our graphite selection is it’s all light, 45-75 grams. Only thing heavier is the Recoil 780es F4 at 86 grams, the MMT 105 stiff at 105 grams and the MMT 125 TX at 125 grams.
Because typical graphite iron shaft users are seniors. And OEMs think us all to be weak & slow. It is your 'upsell', for faster ss and more distance. Embrace the graphite in your kit!! Cater to the elderly! Push for a 'Senior's Fitting Day'. $$$$$$They got pensions and SS.
Par4QC Because typical graphite iron shaft users are seniors
That's true. It's too bad more players in the 40-60 year old range don't consider heavier graphite. Half of them are wearing some sort of brace or whatever and could use graphite's shock absorbing properties. I think going graphite is the equivalent of going up in loft on your driver though lol.
KCee I've used graphite in irons a lot the past 30 years. It just depends on what the shaft profile is like. I used to have some that were 110g, and they are still the best I've ever used. But, that comparison is made from age 50 to now, even though I've never been that long with irons; 6i was my 'go to' perfect 150. Now, no iron goes that far. 
The only set of graphite I have now are the newer Recoil Dart 75. Very nice, and much better than the older Recoil. I am playing steel currently though.
Admittedly, I've only used graphite iron shafts for the looks, mainly. No wrist, elbow, shoulder troubles.
I've only had the one set of irons, and they came with stock graphite shafts. Only two clubs in the bag have steel shafts, my 60°, and my putter.
Give me a TT DG S300 any day of the week.
Last Tee officially endorsed Noodleroni Extra Whippy graphite shafts