Brandel Chamblee gets served..

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... a cease and desist letter from an attorney representing Patrick Reed.

An attorney for Patrick Reed sent a cease-and-desist letter to Golf Channel analyst Brandel Chamblee demanding he stop referring to the golfer as a cheater for his actions at a tournament in the Bahamas last month.

LOL... far be it from me to defend Patrick Reed, but Chamblee could be barking up the wrong tree here if he persists. If the Tour commissioner considers it "case closed" - he'd do well to shut his pie hole for once.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/28454565/stop-calling-patrick-reed-cheater

johnnydoom

While I agree that, in my opinion, Patrick Reed had intent to “cheat”, unless you can prove intent you have to treat it just like any other rule violation. And the tour did.

I don’t really like Chamblee and will often switch to other programming when he’s on air. Seems like he would be entitled to air his opinion, and perhaps that is what will need to change. Laughing that the Golf Channel could soon be airing the generic statement that the statements made by on air analysts don’t necessarily represent the views of the network 🤣.

Last Sunday I was chuckling to myself as Chamblee and Begay III collaborated to pick apart the decisions and strategies used by the three playoff participants. The least accomplished of the three twenty something players has as many career professional wins (5) as the most accomplished analyst (Begay III). Two of the 3 playoff participants have also won major championships, which the analysts haven’t. I suppose the analysts are doing their jobs and that is ok, but sometimes it strikes me as funny to hear them being so critical of more accomplished players. It crosses over from critical to showmanship, like they want to be Gordon Ramsay, but without being better than those they are critical of.

sdandrea1

Patrick Reed is a dick and Chamblee talks too much. I call it a draw.

KCee

I think Reed just needs to shut up, put his head down and go out and win (by the rules). Winning solves everything. Sending a lawyer after a Golf Channel announcer is just ridiculous IMO.

Weirfan

KCee

i like Chamblee for his candor and him not being afraid to go down a path that most don't have the balls to do. Of course, it is his schtick and its all just entertainment to generate interest and commentary. That said he sometimes pushes it too far and has with Reed and should have dropped it long ago. Reed may have a coloured past, but it serves nobody's interests for Chamblee to have spent so much time attacking him. He is the ONLY one to to that.

I don't blame Reed at all for slapping him with a legal threat. chamblee is going above and beyond to besmirch him when everybody else reported the event , had their say and then let it be. This is not journalism its a personal attack and nothing more.

Chamblee should move on from Reed's indiscretion and focus his attack on the PGA Tour who pussey footed around this incident and didn't have the cahones to DQ Reed for intentionally cheating, rather only gave him a 2 stroke penalty. As such, Reed's lawyer is right when he says that Reed didn't intentionally cheat and the PGA Tour's ruling supports that, and they are the judge and jury.

How the lawyer believes the video supports that is questionable at best.

Reed is who he is, a great golfer with an unlikeable side , he's not the first and wont be the last.

ode

"My comments were weighed heavily before they came out of my mouth, and they were meant to address the larger issue of what I believe to be the decaying traditions of the game. This game has always had at its core the belief that self-governing gives the game its appeal. Inasmuch as we play the game for camaraderie. The self-governing tradition is slowly being replaced by a catch-me-if-you-can attitude.

"I think the whole golf world was watching how the Reed incident was treated. Including the young men and women who will soon be on their respective tours. If the catch-me-if-you-can attitude pervades junior golf, 10 years later it pervades professional golf and that concerns me. And was the origin of my remarks."

If it were only true Brandel....it does not make a lick of difference what Reed does on course as to what some other aspiring pro or junior golfer does. Anyone who watched it knows it was wrong. Golf is a great game, but moral decay is not setting in because Reed,s behavior. I don't have a problem with Brandel calling Reed out, he should....and I don't even have a problem with calling him a cheater, but to hide behind "decaying traditions" etc is disingenuous on his part. The game is fine. And if a junior golfer even hints that Reed situation is ok, use it as a teaching moment, not as a moment to question the game as a whole!

KCee

Weirfan I have mixed feelings on Chamblee as he does take it too far at times. I don't know if he's just that much of a dillhole or he's just playing the role he feels the audience wants. Maybe it's just that you have a channel dedicated to only golf and there's only so much to talk about. GC producers were probably thanking God Patrick Reed did what he did or there'd be several hours of pretty much dead air. I can only understand a lawsuit if a sponsor of Reed is saying "hey Chamblee harping on the incident is going to cost you". Even then just deny, deny, deny and go do your job is probably the best way to change everyone's mind. I've been a Reed supporter for the most part. I doubt I would get along with him personally, but I like the way he plays and at least he as some personality. It's not always a bad thing if a sport has some "villains". I also felt that way about NBA player Dennis Rodman once though and hopefully Reed is not going down that road.

Par4QC

KCee Even then just deny, deny, deny and go do your job

He shouldn't have to.

No matter what we think we saw, or what we think, the 'trial' was done by the 'judges'.....PGA officials reviewing the incident. He was found in violation of a rule of golf. ONLY. Convicted of such and handed down the penalty. He was not convicted of cheating, therefore he cannot, and must not be publicly labeled as such. Esp. by persons in media. We, on golf forums and such, may get by with saying whatever we'd like about people of any stature, but those in the public media, cannot. There could be/have been serious repercussions for many that spouted off unproven words publicly. Reed could seriously hurt Chamblee's purse if he takes him to court. Chamblee would have to prove Reed to be a cheater, and no way in hell can he. He has never been charged, nor convicted of such.

KCee

Par4QC He shouldn't have to.

No I agree there's probably no way to prove he was cheating. He broke the rules IMO based on the video, but I couldn't determine intent. I just don't agree with threatening to bring a lawsuit as the response. I think Chamblee trashed Koepka and Woods as often and I didn't hear that they brought lawsuits up. They just went out and won tournaments.

Weirfan

KCee

I thinking that openly and repeatedly calling Reed a cheater on air is much worse than trashing Woods for swing and coaching changes and Koepka for being the arrogant ass he is.
For a pro golfer the accusation of intentionally cheating carries big implications. Bringing up all the dirt on Reed's past etc was just piling on and character assassination and nothing more. He can have an opinion and express that, we all formulated our opinions on what Reed did, as many other in the media also did........however, he didn't stop and his continued attacks were petty and inappropriate for a person in his position.....especially in view of the PGA Tours ruling on the situation.

KCee

Weirfan I thinking that openly and repeatedly calling Reed a cheater on air is much worse than trashing Woods for swing and coaching changes and Koepka for being the arrogant ass he is.

Perhaps. All I can say is that at one point I was a Reed fan and now I'm really not and it has little to do with brushing sand away in a penalty area and more to do with his actions since then.

Also much of what I heard Chamblee saying about Koepka (right after his 1st major) and Woods (after his "prime") is that they were not that good and likely were not going to win. That may not sound as bad as "cheater", but a sponsor is looking to back winners and a GC analyst saying these guys are NOT going to win is possibly impacting their sponsor dollars. You could have your lawyer send a letter even though it's only Chamblee's opinion......or you could go play good golf and win. Just my $.02 that I don't like the road Reed is taking. That said I think Chamblee needs to be knocked down a peg or 2 as well and maybe threatening a lawsuit will get him to dial it back.

Eguller

The best predictor of future actions are past actions. Farmer & the snake joke.....

Par4QC

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I find Brandel insufferable. All this talk about "not afraid to call players out" and "speaking his mind" really isn't my primary dislike about him. It's just that it's the only schtick he has. He's a one-trick pony. He used to be somewhat appreciable back in his early days on the network, back when he would talk about actual golf stuff that was informative.

He carries a chip on his shoulder. He's surrounded by former players/analysts (David Duval, Frank Nobilo) who've enjoyed reasonably successful careers as players, and it's obvious that deep down he resents the fact that he was basically a nobody in his playing career. It's plain as day, and the only way he can compete with their veteran knowledge is by doing what he does - making a name for himself as the network's biggest shitweasel.

fatshot

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"He carries a chip on his shoulder. He's surrounded by former players/analysts (David Duval, Frank Nobilo) who've enjoyed reasonably successful careers as players, and it's obvious that deep down he resents the fact that he was basically a nobody in his playing career."

Agree 100%. If Brandon would even occasionally preface his remarks with something like, "While I realize that
Player A has enjoyed much more success than I ever did on the tour, here's what I THINK was going through his
mind on that shot" it would go a long way towards making what he says more palatable. I know he's gotten into
it on more than one occasion with both Nobilo and Duval on air b/c he comes off as just being a "know-it-all."

Par4QC

Let's see what Brandel has to say about Matt Every tomorrow.

Apparently, Every had too many clubs in the bag, from what my wife was telling me. At least he is the only player showing a WD on the chart & there are is not a DQ showing. Once he discovered it, he simply walked away...….after playing 17 holes!!?? wtf

sdandrea1

Par4QC Once he discovered it, he simply walked away...….after playing 17 holes!!?? wtf

I think you have to take a penalty stroke for every hole you played with the extra club................adds up quick.

fatshot

sdandrea1

Here's what I found......I did not know this!

"The penalty for carrying too many clubs in your bag is two strokes for each hole where a breach of the rule happened. That means if you have 15 clubs in your bag but don’t realize until you’re playing the second hole, you will receive a four-stroke penalty. Fortunately, the maximum penalty for breaking this rules is four strokes, so it won’t get any worse than that."

Here's the whole article from Golf Magazine....https://www.golf.com/gear/2019/03/18/how-many-clubs-in-a-golf-bag/

Spuzz

fatshot Fortunately, the maximum penalty for breaking this rules is four strokes

I remember Ian Woosnam getting even more angry at a Bristish Open? for bringing his spare driver from the range to the course
LOL

sdandrea1

Spuzz remember Ian Woosnam getting even more angry at a Bristish Open? for bringing his spare driver from the range to the course

I think he had his caddy drawn and quartered iirc. 😱