Good news for golfers

kenner · 2016-07-13T05:48:54+00:00

There will no longer be a penalty stroke for hitting a ball into the water or out of bounds. The USGA , the R&A, the PGA, after a private meeting with...

LBlack14

I don't play preferred lies on my own ball, but we do play white stakes as red for pace of play. If folks re-teed around here, rounds would take 6 hrs. and that cuts into 19th hole activities. Distance, drop and get on with it!! I can play for free, but because of the blind mice and sheep, I rarely do. It's a playground for the c*cksuckers.

Release

Which is fine for the average golfers out on their weekly rounds. You guys were not in a USGA sanctioned tournament round , why not ? As long as everyone play the same rules to be fair and to have fun.

I am, against those whom kept changing their personal rules to suit their situation at hand for that moment, especially when there is a few bucks riding on the line. I'm not kidding you, I had seen people tried to changed the rules halfway through the round for pocket change ( the coins in their car probably was more than the bet ).

Golf shows off the true character of a person. I would say 90% of the time this is true.

fnufan

LBlack14

Here in the UK

atticusfinch

Rickochet Eliminating the tee shot and walking the ball to the hole would speed play.

atticusfinch

LBlack14 Whose common sense? Yours...mine? Is there a book of common sense so we could all play by the same sense?

There is a supposed true story where a usga rules official was a walk on in some club.. He was teamed with a group of locals who said: "we know you're a rules guy but we don't play by strict rules in this group." They all teed off and the rules guy landed in a bunker. when they got to his ball he took it and tossed it out of the bunker on the fairway."Wait a minute" they said "you can't do that." He said, "Oh I thought you did not play by the strict rules."

LBlack14

If you have to ask, then you may be part of the problem and your story backs that up.

rsvman

LBlack14 I think Atticus actually makes a pretty good point. There is no obvious definition of "common sense" upon which everybody can agree.

Therefore, if we wanted to make play more convenient, and/or get rid of things that golfers find annoying (such as landing in a divot), the rules would have to be changed. And it would likely require more lengthy, TL-DR descriptions: for example, if we decide a ball can be dropped out a divot without a penalty stroke, then we all have to agree on what constitutes a divot.

Writing a rule book that covers all the bases without being overly complicated is a lot harder than most people think it is.

For my part, I think the "walk of shame" could be completely eliminated without changing the rules at all. If you hit a ball and think it might be out of bounds, just tee up another one and hit it. If the first one is IN bounds, play it and pick up the other one. If it is OUT of bounds, play the second ball hitting 4. It's not that complicated and it doesn't require slowing down play to go back to the tee.

LBlack14

rsvman

I play white as red and rules of golf otherwise. When I say common sense I'm talking about things like shooting yardage out of greenside bunkers, hunting for balls other than your group, driving between greenside traps and greens, sitting in the cart until your turn to hit, playing ready golf etc, etc. Folks take forever and a day unless it comes to waiting for an employee to get out of the line of fire, then they're in a hurry. Common sense. I see it everyday, people become more and more clueless the older they get or just don't care. It scares the hell outta me because I fear that's what I have to look forward to.

Typhoon

If playing for big money then I guess you gotta use the real rules.

But me and the people I play with ?!...who cares. We're just out playing. If u lose one, drop one where it went out. Or if u want, hit another one off the tee. Preferred lies in the fairway? Do what u want...is it really going to make THAT much of a difference?. My friends might skull a ball out of a divot and onto the green better than chunking one off the perfect lie. Makes no difference to our group. Nibidys taking the ball out of a trap...nothing stupid, but if they did....hey it's their game not mine.

Sometimes on the green, no ball marker...just pick it up and stare at the spot where your ball was or put a blade of grass or 2 in its place and then just put the ball back there. We've never had an arguement...

Just want to go at a good clip.

Zack

kenner Do you "count" the same way Trump does, using alternative numerals??

raggmann54

Zack Nope...use the Hillary method - at this point what difference does it make???

Zack

raggmann54 Goes to your "intent". If you intended for the ball to go into the hole when putting and it doesn't, you can put down the alternative number as the score you feel you deserve, rather than the actual true score.

It's called the the Trump Reality.

Release

That'a so funny !!!!!!

mulegolf

jamez
Jul '16

Stroke and distance is stupid for OB or lost ball anyway. Should be stroke, drop and move along.
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I couldn't agree more on this. It's different than a pro in a televised tournament. They always have TV slow-mo replay to help locate a wayward ball. The normal hacker hits a ball (often times to a location they can't see over a hill, etc.) and we are supposed too take a stroke and distance penalty. It should be enough to drop somewhere on the line of flight as close a can be determined to where the ball may rest, take a stroke penalty and be on our way to the hole. I feel stronger about this for a lost ball than an out of bounds stroke that you can see (and find easily).

rsvman

mulegolf, why shouldn't it be two strokes? For OB, for example, the idea is that you hit the ball off the course. You take a one-stroke penalty for that. Then, you hit from where you were BEFORE you hit the ball off the course. (That's the "distance" part.)

So if you just drop and take a one-stroke penalty, you've essentially advanced the ball 230 yards (or whatever) without a stroke. In essence, just picked the ball up and moved it 230 yards. Hardly seems fair.

My advice is to always hit a provisional when you think the ball might be OB. But if you don't do this, and you don't want to go back to the tee (which I understand), then you at the very least need to assess yourself a TWO-STROKE penalty, not a one-stroke penalty.

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