Non-Traditional Golf Swing Discussion

scotts33 · 2018-09-08T18:16:05+00:00

Since, there seems some interest in non-traditional methods of the golf swing. Here are 3 that I have tried or used. There are more but these three I feel...

garyt1957

kelco9 Well, in the last few weeks, I have been sorely tempted to make a post on this thread that goes something like this: "F---k this thread, F---k this thread, F---k this thread."

****HaHa it can be dangerous

I started playing as a young boy and had plenty of instruction, including extended-stay golf camps. So, I developed a good, conventional swing and I have always been a decent, but not great, player. But somewhere in the last while I have become a tinkerer. This thread fed that tendency --- and it's killing me! Not only am I playing some of the worst golf I have played in decades, but I can't find my way back to my old swing.

****This is what finally got me. I could always try new swings and immediately revert to my normal swing. But I got so far down the rabbit hole I couldn't get out. I've literally tried every swing in this thread and a whole bunch more to boot.

I opened my stance...ALOT! I opened it at least 45* on all shots, including drivers and FWs. On short wedge shots, I wasn't far off facing the hole with my body! I used very little arms and almost all body turn, concentrating on hitting the ball up my target line. Now, I didn't shoot the lights out or anything like that, but I played WAY better than I have in awhile. I never felt like I was going pin hunting, but I only missed two greens on the 13 holes I used this swing.

So, the tinkering continues. I think there is an "optimum" openness to the stance and a proper ball placement that might really work. I just have to find it. 🙂

*****Check this out http://www.openstanceacademy.com/golf/ he has some good YT videos

kelco9

scotts33 I do like the Triangulaid method. In particular, I watched a lot of the videos by Steve Johnston (I believe that is his name) and his Eureka method (i.e., Triangulaid). The method I described in my post is down this line, but open to an even greater degree.

The one problem I have with Triangulaid/Eureka is that they have you swinging out to the right, and require that you trust that the outward path will be down the line as your body turns. It will/should be. But I was finding that I having trouble trusting that that would happen, and I was pulling the ball a lot with the Eureka method. While my "swing down the line" really IS a swing out to the right, that's not the way I have it pictured in my head. I picture swinging down the line (and over a spot about 8" ahead of my ball).

I know po tae to/po ta to, but golf is played between the ears.

DonM

kelco9 You are using the Mindy Blake swing. Probably the second iteration of it.

https://www.amazon.com/Mindy-Blake/e/B001H6MFOK

kelco9

DonM Thanks, Don, I'll take a look.

scotts33

JMO but all of these open stance swing methods start with Moe Norman, Lee Trevino from a copy a pro level and from an instruction platform Bill Owens in 1991. Everyone else that's mentioned took Bill's ideas and restructured them slightly and called it theirs. Even Brian Sparks to a point.

DonM

scotts33 Scott, Moe did not stand open. You might be thinking of someone else.

scotts33

DonM Scott, Moe did not stand open. You might be thinking of someone else.

OK fair enough always looked slightly open to me.

DonM

kelco9 Here is a forum that didn't really go anywhere, dedicated to the swing.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/featheredfriends/the-mindy-blake-golf-forum-f346986/

As mentioned in the pinned top post, there is an alternative swing forum that is active, although small.

DonM

kelco9

pellmell

DonM If you compare impact positions from the front and down the line it's similar to the longest players on tour. The difference in the Mindy swing is the open stance which makes proper hip rotation easier.

sdandrea1

Back to a lazy, bent left arm, Brian Sparks tempo type swing now. My soon-to-be-replaced right knee and my left shoulder are screaming at me to ease up. I had one of the best ball striking days ever yesterday. Maybe I just need to keep switching it up like I do clubs?

fatshot

sdandrea1
That's one of the (many!) reasons I don't like looking at pics or video of my swing! Way too much bend in the left arm (although I stopped worrying about it years ago), and a god-awful UGLY move I make at impact where my right shoulder looks like it takes over my swing! (Gee, I wonder why the PULL is my bad shot??) I stopped worrying about what it looks like and just try to read what I'm doing from my ball flight. As long as the shots feel solid and
go where I expect them to go, and I can chip and putt a little, I'm satisfied.....

scotts33

sdandrea1 Back to a lazy, bent left arm, Brian Sparks tempo type swing now. My soon-to-be-replaced right knee and my left shoulder are screaming at me to ease up. I had one of the best ball striking days ever yesterday.

That makes sense as any iteration of Sparks Easiest method is easier on the body. I find the same to be true. The one issue I couldn't switch back and forth is the tempo part of it. Once you have La Danse Du Golf down I'd stay with it myself.

sdandrea1

fatshot As long as the shots feel solid and
go where I expect them to go, and I can chip and putt a little, I'm satisfied.....

The BOTTOM LINE!

sdandrea1

scotts33 Once you have La Danse Du Golf down I'd stay with it myself.

I struggle to stay smooth once the ball striking improves........I tend to start swinging harder until it sucks and then remember to smooth it down.

darpar

My games's been in the dumpster for months now,stumbled onto the Kirk Junge method a few days ago
on Youtube.
The idea of starting from the impact position at set-up somehow made a LOT of sense to me.
Just scratching the surface of his ideas but starting to show some promise already.
Shot a 78 yesterday in league play and ball striking hasn't felt that good in a LONG time...
Even played the whole round with the same friggin' ball!

scotts33

Bottom line go with the full swing that allows the majority of center impact flush shots that are on line. To me that's the important factor.

fatshot

sdandrea1
Something that helps me in that respect is the thought of "Hold Your Finish," or "Pose For a Picture." I
do find though that I'm less and less able to do this as I get older.....

scotts33

fatshot Something that helps me in that respect is the thought of "Hold Your Finish," or "Pose For a Picture." I
do find though that I'm less and less able to do this as I get older.....

In Triangulaid and also Sparks Easiest they like you to hold your finish 6 secs. All your weight transferred to your front foot.

Balance and suppleness (souplesse) with no tension are the underpinnings of P.I.G.

fatshot

scotts33
I'm happy IF I can hold my finish for a count of three OR until the ball starts its descent...! Easier to do on
the range than on the course. Watching the pros....esp. the LPGA pros....it's ridiculous how long they can
hold it!! Now I have something to work on in my practice session this weekend.....

sdandrea1

I find it easy to xfer to front foot and hold finish - no reverse pivot issue here. Tempo and over the top are my demons. If I maintain slow/smooth, OTTP is not an issue either. I have to remember to swing the club, NOT hit the ball.

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