Non-Traditional Golf Swing Discussion

scotts33 · 2018-09-08T18:16:05+00:00

Since, there seems some interest in non-traditional methods of the golf swing. Here are 3 that I have tried or used. There are more but these three I feel...

DonM

kelco9 Here is a forum that didn't really go anywhere, dedicated to the swing.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/featheredfriends/the-mindy-blake-golf-forum-f346986/

As mentioned in the pinned top post, there is an alternative swing forum that is active, although small.

DonM

kelco9

pellmell

DonM If you compare impact positions from the front and down the line it's similar to the longest players on tour. The difference in the Mindy swing is the open stance which makes proper hip rotation easier.

sdandrea1

Back to a lazy, bent left arm, Brian Sparks tempo type swing now. My soon-to-be-replaced right knee and my left shoulder are screaming at me to ease up. I had one of the best ball striking days ever yesterday. Maybe I just need to keep switching it up like I do clubs?

fatshot

sdandrea1
That's one of the (many!) reasons I don't like looking at pics or video of my swing! Way too much bend in the left arm (although I stopped worrying about it years ago), and a god-awful UGLY move I make at impact where my right shoulder looks like it takes over my swing! (Gee, I wonder why the PULL is my bad shot??) I stopped worrying about what it looks like and just try to read what I'm doing from my ball flight. As long as the shots feel solid and
go where I expect them to go, and I can chip and putt a little, I'm satisfied.....

scotts33

sdandrea1 Back to a lazy, bent left arm, Brian Sparks tempo type swing now. My soon-to-be-replaced right knee and my left shoulder are screaming at me to ease up. I had one of the best ball striking days ever yesterday.

That makes sense as any iteration of Sparks Easiest method is easier on the body. I find the same to be true. The one issue I couldn't switch back and forth is the tempo part of it. Once you have La Danse Du Golf down I'd stay with it myself.

sdandrea1

fatshot As long as the shots feel solid and
go where I expect them to go, and I can chip and putt a little, I'm satisfied.....

The BOTTOM LINE!

sdandrea1

scotts33 Once you have La Danse Du Golf down I'd stay with it myself.

I struggle to stay smooth once the ball striking improves........I tend to start swinging harder until it sucks and then remember to smooth it down.

darpar

My games's been in the dumpster for months now,stumbled onto the Kirk Junge method a few days ago
on Youtube.
The idea of starting from the impact position at set-up somehow made a LOT of sense to me.
Just scratching the surface of his ideas but starting to show some promise already.
Shot a 78 yesterday in league play and ball striking hasn't felt that good in a LONG time...
Even played the whole round with the same friggin' ball!

scotts33

Bottom line go with the full swing that allows the majority of center impact flush shots that are on line. To me that's the important factor.

fatshot

sdandrea1
Something that helps me in that respect is the thought of "Hold Your Finish," or "Pose For a Picture." I
do find though that I'm less and less able to do this as I get older.....

scotts33

fatshot Something that helps me in that respect is the thought of "Hold Your Finish," or "Pose For a Picture." I
do find though that I'm less and less able to do this as I get older.....

In Triangulaid and also Sparks Easiest they like you to hold your finish 6 secs. All your weight transferred to your front foot.

Balance and suppleness (souplesse) with no tension are the underpinnings of P.I.G.

fatshot

scotts33
I'm happy IF I can hold my finish for a count of three OR until the ball starts its descent...! Easier to do on
the range than on the course. Watching the pros....esp. the LPGA pros....it's ridiculous how long they can
hold it!! Now I have something to work on in my practice session this weekend.....

sdandrea1

I find it easy to xfer to front foot and hold finish - no reverse pivot issue here. Tempo and over the top are my demons. If I maintain slow/smooth, OTTP is not an issue either. I have to remember to swing the club, NOT hit the ball.

scotts33

Great video as to why you are not getting any better at golf with a swing change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qop6UakSwEk

pellmell

scotts33 Video is instrumental when making swing changes. For a change to be successful exaggeration is required and without video we don't know what we're actually doing. The complication is analysis. For example, a fundamental problem of the guy in the video is early extension (goat humping).

garyt1957

scotts33 That was one long video to say "Give it time, changes don't happen in one bucket"

scotts33

Golf season for me is waning. Bowling leagues/tournaments starts next week for me. I have devoted a month to JV and though I see some benefits staying that "still" is almost impossible. I guess, I am just used to moving.

Played Labor Day weekend trying Easiest/P.I.G. which is the exact opposite of JV. I did this just to see if all those moving parts of Easiest can be done after being in the "stillness" mode for weeks. Amazing you can move that much and make solid centered impacts that go dead straight without really thinking about it as long as you keep tension and a smooth tempo ala La Danse Du Golf. For me JV is a learned swing takes a lot of effort. Easiest practice a few swings before round with an old SwingRite and waalaa solid shots dead straight as long as you don't over swing and balls goes further.

The more, I think about it go with the swing technique that is least foreign and produces decent results round after round. Forcing a swing method that takes so much time and effort isn't worth it especially at 70. 😀

sdandrea1

scotts33

LeDance is soooooo much easier on the body too.

kelco9

I think one of the greatest challenges about golf (and perhaps the most fun thing about it) is that you can never perfect it. And since you can't perfect it, we are constantly working on improving our games/swings. We're in a perpetual change/fix mode, which means that we never fully focus on playing our game.

Judy Rankin made this point during the Canadian Women's Open. She said (I'm paraphrasing), "Everyone is always trying to make that change [and I'll add, buy that new club] that will allow them to hit the ball 4-5 yards farther, rather than just playing the game they have. Learn your game and then use it to score the best you can."

Now, I (nor Judy, I'm sure) am not saying that we shouldn't continue to try to improve, but I do think a lot of us overthink things. A lot of us would do well to keep the difference between a practice range and a golf course in mind. 🙂

sdandrea1

kelco9
Agree, except I gave up looking for distance long ago. I ho clubs out of boredom and the "gee, I've never tried those" syndrome. My swing daliances are mostly in searrch of a good inside out path and more solid contact off the turf. In the end, no matter what swing or clubs are at the dance, I'm gonna cobble together a score somewhere between 75 and 85. Once on the course, it's all about the game. I see a lot of guys chasing launch monitor numbers who can't break 90.

pellmell

kelco9 you can never perfect it.

Proper mechanics can be achieved. It's not a prerequisite for a good score, but it helps.

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