Reading Comprehension

professor · 2017-10-14T15:15:57+00:00

Some folks here seem to express interest in discussion beyond golf and sports... So, here's some grist for your mill. I'm curious as to who and how far the...

Sneakylong

LBlack14

Who needs a transcript when you have an audio tape?

Sneakylong

I've been in many a locker room and have never heard anyone admitting to sexual assault. Trump's behavior is not normal. Nothing about this jerk is normal. Yet his supporters bend over backwards trying to normalize him.

He congratulates dictators and insults democratic leaders. For whatever reason some are drawn to his authoritarian, debasing, undignified, uncivilized, braggadocious, lying style. Where they see a qualified leader, I see a skilled con artist.

Don't get it myself, but to each their own.

Need to see more Flakes and Corkers to tell this would be Emperor that he has no clothes.

While his supporters cheer on this idiots behavior, his cabinet is quietly dismantling all the progress we made in the last many years. Just look at the EPA and Education Depts. for a glimpse.

This demagogue is doing a lot of damage that is going under the radar. 2020 can't come fast enough. Could it be Uncle Joe will be the one to take this con man down? 😎

johnnydoom

Well, he did allow sales of weapons grade uranium to go to the Russians, sent huge volumes of cash to the Iranian government, and normalized relationships with an oppressive Cuban government. (Whoops! - my mistake. That was a different president). I must admit that I haven't paid much attention to the crotch grab stuff, but what I've heard is that he said something along the lines of when you're rich and famous women will let you get away with that. If it even happened, sounds like it was consensual and not assault as you are describing it. Crude yes, assault no. I know Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey said it was not consensual (oops. Sorry - that was a different president also. However, his wife said those woman were liars anyway, so it doesn't matter).

Sneakylong

johnnydoom

Ah, the shiny object. Look over here, look over here. What does the sale of Uranium to Russia have to do with Russia interfering in our elections?

I believe the cash sent back to Iran was their cash to begin with.

The crotch grabbing is on audio tape. If supporters believe everything else this idiot says, why not this?

Why should we treat Cuba differently that other communist countries like China and Vietnam?

Who's excusing Bill Clinton's womanizing?

Hillary didn't win, she's in Chappaqua hawking books. But you right wingers can't leave her alone. Be honest, secretly right wingers wish she had won. Think of all the ridulious wild goose chasing investigations could be going on right now.

Oh wait, right winger congressmen Trey Gowdy is starting one up again on the email baloney. Let the fun begin again.

Where's the right wing chant of Niger, Niger, Niger. Lord knows we heard a lot Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. 😱

professor

Tinker
I'm right-handed... Lol You didn't respond to the challenge - not one iota. You just 'skirted' the issue. Pun intended. If you think it's alright for our POTUS to be 'captured' speaking in that manner about women, ask yourself if it'd be okay were he referring to your mother, your wife, or your daughter. It's 2017. This isn't about "Left", it's about moving forward toward the future in a more civilized manner.

professor

LBlack14 professor I don't see myself as a far right, tea bagger, kook, only the FAR left see it that way. You guys are so far left even the moderates have a crick in their necks.

You misunderstand. I did't say you are and didn't suggest you are. I asked the question if you're comfortable in being referred to as such. Given your response, seems the answer is "no". You then proceeded to suggest "you guys" again, just reinforcing your tendency toward broad brush generalizations.

johnnydoom

Sneakylong You are the one that resents the fact that the president might have something nice to say about foreign dictators. I was just pointing out to you that at least he's not cutting deals with them as the former president did. I didn't hear any audio of an assault. I heard an audio of the president saying that women allowed him access due to his fame and fortune. You somehow have turned it into an assault. Also, no one is excusing president Clinton's behavior. Just pointing out once again, you are worried about Trump acting crudely as though it is something new, when he's been better (so far) than many former presidents in that regard. Is there a cover-up I haven't heard about with Niger? No one's been making the rounds in the press trying to blame a film producer that I've heard of. And if there was a standoff in which some support could have potentially helped those killed, I haven't heard about it. I don't know the details, but what little I've heard made it sound like an ambush, not an ongoing firefight in which potential rescuers were ordered to stand down.

puttnfool

Sneakylong

Sneakylong After all renters don't pay real estate taxes and are therefore subsidized by people who own homes

Saying a renter doesn't pay real estate taxes is like saying that you didn't pay for the wheels when you bought the car. The cost is included. Just because it's not itemized for you to see nice and pretty, in black and white, doesn't mean it's not included.

puttnfool

Sneakylong Admitting to sexual assault is a disgrace.

... but lying about it, shaming your victims, and pretending it never happened is graceful?

Lying continually is a disgrace.

That's fairly vague. Please name someone who hasn't lied. I'll wait.

Bulling people is a disgrace.

Assuming you just can't spell and meant "bullying". If so, bullying is a made up issue to create victims. When I was growing up, kids (and I'd presume adults, too) weren't taught to lie down and be a victim. If someone was messin' with you, you either ignored it because it wasn't worth your time or you did what needed to be done to stop it.

Giving a false equivalency to Nazi white nationalists and people who protest against such hate groups is a disgrace.

You're reaching again. False equivalency? Please.

Continually (for years) saying your predecessor wasn't born in this country and then never apologizing is a disgrace.

Did the worthless predecessor ever price him wrong? I didn't think so...

candukid

puttnfool If so, bullying is a made up issue to create victims. When I was growing up, kids (and I'd presume adults, too) weren't taught to lie down and be a victim. If someone was messin' with you, you either ignored it because it wasn't worth your time or you did what needed to be done to stop it.

Are you serious? What an asinine statement.

That statement in itself just goes to show the world ho ignorant you really are.

puttnfool

Sneakylong Have you been under a rock? He was caught on tape saying he grabbed women by their pussies. That IS sexual assault.

What I heard was he said, "... They let you grab them by the pussy.". Sounded to me like he was saying that women were so enamored by his status, money, and fame that they'd let him grab them by their virginias. That. Is. Not. Assault.

candukid

puttnfool What I heard was he said, "... They let you grab them by the pussy.". Sounded to me like he was saying that women were so enamored by his status, money, and fame that they'd let him grab them by their virginias. That. Is. Not. Assault.

TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs [breath fresheners] just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

"Just kiss. I don't even wait"

That. mr. puttnfool. Is. Assault.

Sneakylong

If this were Obama, Hillary or any other Democrat's behavior in office, impeachment hearings would've started long ago. And I can't imagine what Republicans would be saying if Obama admitted on tape to grouping women. Are you kidding me a black man admitting to sexual assault.😲

People have a hard time admitting they've been conned. Nobody wants to admit being fooled by a grifter.

They wanted a tough talking phony who knows nothing beyond his bravado. They wanted the ignorant loud mouth sitting at the end of the bar blaming immigrants for their economic problems. They wanted a bully.

They wanted to make America white again and to take the country back to a time when white nativism was commonplace. Looks down at minorities. They wanted all these expanded human rights to minority groups rescinded. Wants to regulate a women's uterus and thinks a women who gets an abortion should have some sort of punishment.

They wanted someone who never took a civics class. Doesn't know Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory and probably couldn't find Niger on a map. Admires tough talking dictators over democratic leaders. Someone who doesn't believe in science. Believes if we have nuclear weapons, why can't we use them. Doesn't know the difference between Medicare and Medicade. Someone full of resentment.

They wanted someone like themselves. 😉

puttnfool

Sneakylong People have a hard time admitting they've been conned.

You mean like those who voted for Obama's "hope and change"?

I'll just leave this here. I think it speaks enough on the U.S. geography subject.

Spuzz

From up here, I think they just wanted NOT Hillary and the like, for the most part.
I predicted a Trump win, ironically in a conversation with Candukid, and I am not a big politics guy.
However, I have a good bullshit radar and the Dems (and Libs here) are extra full of it and corrupt.

IMO,there's really no defense of Trump the Man, but you cannot deny the negative sentiment for the Democrats.
As soon as the Dems realize they have been a disgrace themselves (I doubt they will due to arrogance) they will be better off and no more Trumps and the like, will be in office for along time.
JMHO

We have had the same shit here for the last 15 years.
Liberal retards ruining this once great Conservative built province.
However, the only ones to blame are the Conservatives themselves who keep shooting themselves in the foot with in-fighting, poor candidates and the inability to stick together and keep their beefs with each other behind closed doors and show the public a united front. (Liberal trademark)
They are about to be booted out, finally, unless a last minute shit storm happens.
I will be holding my breath until the last minute.
🙁

IMO, the cracks are showing in the Republican Party and all the Dems have to do is STFU and keep quiet and stop being sore losers (Hillary is not helping with her blame game and current tour btw) and accept the next 3 years as is. Complaining does nothing at all.

professor

Spuzz Complaining does nothing at all.

Exactly! Correct!

puttnfool

candukid If they let him do it, it's not assault. If they resist, then it's assault. You'd think with a title of "Reading Comprehension" you'd do better than that.

Spuzz

candukid "Just kiss. I don't even wait"

Even drunken Joe Namath gives you a heads up
lol

Sneakylong

puttnfool

Assault is unwanted touching. Resisting has nothing to do with it. So in your weird little world if a women is raped and does not resist then you consider that consensual?

Whether it be sexual harassment or sexual assault it's all about power over a woman. Just because a woman doesn't report / complain about sexual harassment, sexual assault or rape doesn't mean she consented to it. Get real.

puttnfool

candukid It's ok. We've learned that you Canucks don't like to defend yourselves.

LBlack14

puttnfool don't waste your time with him, and please, don't judge all Canadians based on him either.

mikeintopeka

I'm having a hard time understanding why the tables apparently turned on the Clintons and Putin. I'll take them at their word they had no influence on the approval of Uranium One and one of the reasons it was approved was to rebuild our relationship with Russia.

Former President Bill Clinton was invited to Russia to give a speech and received $500,000 and also met briefly with Putin. Hilary, as SOS, also visited Putin after the uranium deal was approved and it wasn't too long after Bill had been there. During that visit, Hilary announced we were removing some of the economic sanctions in place against Russia as another big olive branch. The final details of the Uranium One sale were completed in 2013.

So, with everything going Putin's way with the Clintons as documented as late as 2013, what happened that Putin suddenly was supporting Trump in the presidential election in 2016, as alleged and being investigated?

puttnfool

mikeintopeka I'll take them at their word they had no influence...

I'm hoping that's sarcasm because I had some stuff earlier today that's worth the same as a Clinton's word, but I flushed it down the toilet.

candukid

LBlack14
puttnfool don't waste your time with him, and please, don't judge all Canadians based on him either.

I bet you were both bullies growing up...

professor

LBlack14 please, don't judge all Canadians based on him either.

Thanks, that's a great request. Let's see if it gets honored? So, I simply take that as your reply to me that you're not always in favor of broad-brush generalizations.

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