The "I want the paycheck, but don't want to work for it" generation

PIGDivot · 2016-03-10T20:44:01+00:00

I work in a production environment with two 20 year old "kids". They were hired to run some machines, lift boxes, move crap, etc. It's manual labor, and it...

LBlack14

Some folks don't move as fast as others as we age. Slow and steady win the race in some instances and haste winds up causing more damage than its' worth. Do it right the 1st time so I don't have to come back and clean up somebody else's mess. Which has happened alot in my day. Sometimes it's about quality and not quantity.

I worked with a young guy a couple years ago who would, literally, run doing some jobs and FLY when doing some cut jobs. He was careless and dangerous to be around. Also his haste made for cut jobs that looked like shit, damaged equipment and turf. There's a whole nuther story behind the last statement that caused a big shit storm with me and a Superintendent that I found out later he/ the Super fabricated. The "asst" wants me to come back, but I haven't because the Super is so out of touch with real, on the job, operations and his crew.

PIGDivot

LBlack14 Some folks don't move as fast as others as we age. Slow and steady win the race in some instances and haste winds up causing more damage than its' worth. Do it right the 1st time so I don't have to come back and clean up somebody else's mess. Which has happened alot in my day. Sometimes it's about quality and not quantity.

LOL, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard this line.

I've been in this business for 22 years now. I work hard and fast, and my quality is as good or better than anyone else. Sometimes experience is your best teacher too. I guess I've been doing it longer than anyone else, so I know all the shortcuts, and all the tricks to get the job done right the first time, and in the least amount of time. I also know how to multi task too. One day we were extremely busy and I single handedly was running four different printers. Most people can't even handle one. You just have to know what you are doing, and the most efficient way to run it.

Sure there are times when I have to slow down to make sure it gets done right, but frankly what I described in my first post to start this thread is being kind. Oh, and I'm the guy who is constantly cleaning up behind everyone else. They throw their crap everywhere, leave food on machines, dump paper on the ground, etc, and I'm the one who cleans it up to make things a little easier to work in. And yeah, I think when you work like a slob it shows in the rest of your life as well. I bet if I went to any of these people's houses they would live just as messy at home as they do at work. Work is just a reflection of your character and how you live your life. I think my work ethic speaks for itself.

And on a side note, I'm the guy who will finish a round of golf in two hours or less if given an open course. I don't believe in wasting time in anything I do. There's too much to experience, and too much to want to do to be so slow in life.

LBlack14

PIGDivot

We're not in the same business obviously and I understand that. Also you don't walk in other's shoes. Not a shot, but a fact. I'm not making excuses for young, healthy, just plain lazy folks, believe me as I've worked with plenty who are exactly what you speak of. I totally agree with your assessment of the reflection in those real lives as well.

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garyt1957

The ME generation started after WWII from the baby boomers and progressively got worse .
I admire those whom made it in life themselves but left nothing to their children and grand children except for an opportunity to get higher education.

Laziness and procrastination seemed to creep in place after the basic needs are met, that's human nature.
However, the younger generation seemed to have this entitlement issue. They believed that they "deserve" the better things in life and should be handed off to them.

swinnea

I think you can go back to ancient Greece and see complaints about the "younger" generation. Around my workplace (university), it seems to be that workers are not held accountable. From my vantage point it's the older workers that barely manage to show up 4 days out of 5 and knock off 30min to an hour early every day.

LBlack14

swinnea
Union workers.

swinnea

LBlack14 Union workers.

Nope (no unions).

Seymore101

As a small machine shop owner, I do see what you are talking about. However, I will also tell you that when you start to find replacements, and there is nothing of any quality out there, that is very discouraging. A "better than average employee" is someone who shows up (not alway on time), does what's asked of them (they may complain and whine, but still do it), and doesn't tear stuff up or make more work in the progress. I had a young kid just a couple months back that was making $8 an hour, I hire him in at our lowest point $12, he was ecstatic, and he was doing a solid job, tardy some, and messy, but kept busy and was good at rough machining jobs. He had 3 no call no shows, and he didn't care. Fell off the map for 2 weeks before he came in to get his stuff. When he came in, I told him that if he could get his act together I think he could be a very good machinist. His truck broke down, and he was going to try and find someplace he could walk to work, for $8 an hour. I was astonished.

LBlack14

Seymore101

When do I start? ;-)

lambo

Don't disagree with the observations, but don't let it discourage you if you have kids or grandchildren. Help them realize if they are willing to work hard it will pay off. But, working hard is also working smart. So get a good education and focus on learning, not just getting grades. Then view that degree as simply a door to help you take the next step and then the next and ......

My dad taught me the value of working hard, I passed it on to my children. Frankly, it was seed that sprouted. They are not alone, there is a minority of youth today that do work and apply themselves. What I see is they are rewarded way beyond what was available when I was a kid. A young executive who is really willing to work hard has incredible opportunity. Companies are digging hard to find leadership and promising young adults to lead them into the future.

Seymore101

LBlack14 Come on down brother, we can set you up in one form or fashion

professor

LBlack14 Here's a link for you!
http://www.golfbuzz.com/d/154-a-little-bit-about-me-for-those-of-you-who-haven-t-figured-it-out

Check out the graffiti on the wall behind Trace Adkins in that video. Some good advice there. Did you really spell BOY in caps for a reason? See, our current President, he was never a "rich, overpaid big wigs in cooperate offices and or companies somewhere". But, you might have missed that. See, your guy, Dubya, he's the one born with the silver spoon in his mouth. Maybe you didn't realize that.

LBlack14

professor
I may be a lot of things, but it when it comes to this, I am far from ignorant. You can choose to hide under your rock if you like and ignore what's real life, but I live in the real world. You and your other identity can choose to act ignorant if you like.

professor

I have no "other identity". I've grown tired of folks disrespecting our current President. I never read substance, just bashing - bashing of a man who's done a remarkable job, especially considering the barriers he's had to face.

I'm curious to know what's so wrong with your quality of life that you'd be so angry and so looking for a scapegoat. As for just one example: how's it going filling the tank of your pick-up. Not so bad recently eh?

LBlack14

professor I have no "other identity". I've grown tired of folks disrespecting our current President. I never read substance, just bashing - bashing of a man who's done a remarkable job, especially considering the barriers he's had to face.

I'm curious to know what's so wrong with your quality of life that you'd be so angry and so looking for a scapegoat. As for just one example: how's it going filling the tank of your pick-up. Not so bad recently eh?

No offense to the folks who are actually blind, but you, obviously, are too far gone to see.

Not too bad now that he's on his way out and the prices are getting back to where they were before he took office. Typical I think.

pike51

professor and Obama has NOTHING to do with the current price of gas, NOTHING. The relief you feel at the pumps has been based on decisions made at the state and local levels.

Quite frankly, the only thing he has done was push a garbage healthcare bill through that has made the entire system worse. He has also increased the racial tension in this country exponetially while he and his wife take overly lavish trips all over the globe. Don't get me started on his support of military deserters and his disrespectful lack of attendance the funerals of a chief justice and a former first lady.

PIGDivot

LBlack14 the best response to a troll is to ignore them. Hopefully they'll go away eventually.

Release

pike51 lack of attendance the funerals of a chief justice and a former first lady.

I forgot, did Biden show up for the office ?

Yes, very unfortunate, they would find time entertaining the Justin and Sophie Trudeau. From the picture of Michelle with Sophie, Michelle did not look too happy doing that either, like everyone owes her. FGS put on a smiling face.

Release

I do give our President this, I admired his courage and the great effort for trying to change and push through major events in the history of this Nation all in 8 years ( actually 6 if you count the last 2 years as cooling down/ monitoring period ).

Sometimes I wonder why ?
Was it because he felt the pressure of doing all this by himself because he could not trust anyone else to carry on the torch ? Or because he wants to leave his name in History not only as the first minority President of the Nation but also as a mover and shaker to bring about new changes ?
Time and Time again, from dealing with the domestic and the foreign policy , negotiations, our President lack the skill needed to have the job done. He got the points across alright, but he ended up chasing the basket ball over the sideline instead of down the court.
Great effort, no one I had observed tried as hard as our President. Only if he had the right approach to have things done rather than having things done his way.

Things wouldn't and couldn't change over night and if being forced, the system will break.

It's like removing a shaft from the head, proper heating/equipment and patience needed to do the job. If time does not allow the completion of the job, at least prep for the next step.
Removing the expensive graphite shaft without warming up the hosel properly and using a crawl bar to force the head off will cause catastrophic result.

What we had experienced is truly not just this one or two "generation gap" issue. It is , the frequency of the happening.

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