Rickochet I saw something on the news this morning that St. Louis had 328 vacancies for police officers. That does not include the 100 vacancies that were canceled by the defunding police administration

Not sure what this has to do what happened today in Kansas City. 🙄 Included in the 800 law enforcement on the ground at the parade were federal, state and local law enforcement.

The issue in Kansas City wasn’t enough law enforcement on the ground. The issue is easy access to guns. They seem to have no restrictions in Missouri.

Again, the issue in these mass shootings isn’t enough law enforcement. It’s gun culture / lax gun laws and easy access to guns. Arguments that obfuscate the real issue aren’t helpful.

No need to hold our breath, we’ll be on to the next mass shooting (49th) in two shakes of a lambs tale. Meanwhile we’ll offer our thoughts and prayers. Which sadly doesn’t seem to do much.😞 Sadness doesn’t cut it. Anger is needed here.

https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/defund-police-myth/

“Busting the ‘Defund the Police’ Myth”

“Despite Republican claims, police in the largest Democrat-run cities have not been defunded.”

      Sneakylong There were ~ 800 law enforcement people at the parade and still people weren’t safe from gun violence.

      Law enforcement isn't really designed as crime prevention. 800 to protect 1 million? Nah, not happening. Lots of children were shot today. I think current count is one dead and 21 hospitalized, some in critical condition.

          Rickochet That does not include the 100 vacancies that were canceled by the defunding police administration.

          What the hell are you talking about - "defunding police administration"? I'd like to see you support that statement. Any of those progressive liberals suggesting that police departments should be de-funded are fucking idiots!

            professor Law enforcement isn't really designed as crime prevention

            In these situations that’s point (visibility). Law enforcement is visible and is intended to dissuade criminal behavior. We don’t know the details yet.

            But my guess is law enforcement was there rather quickly, hence the quick apprehension. And I’ll bet the shooters had some sort of gun that could fire rapidly.

            Also reports are this was some sort of argument that turned to gunfire. If that’s the case they sucked at aiming. They missed shooting each other, but hit two dozen innocent people.

            Again, all speculation. But it’ll be interesting to hear what actually took place here.

                propman the talk and actual defunding of police depts

                And you too! Go ahead support that statement. Because it's not happening. Why do you folks feel the need to blow smoke without doing your homework. Just make shit up...

                    Sneakylong Arguments that obfuscate the real issue aren’t helpful.

                    Oh, do you mean dumbass comments - those that are just political talking-point bullshit like, "how criminals avoid jail time". LMAO You mean the guy that used to be in the White House?

                        professor relax prof! There was a shitload of defunding talk after the Floyd mess. Or don't you remember?

                            Sneakylong And I’ll bet the shooters had some sort of gun that could fire rapidly.

                            Yup! Already heard a witnessed interviewed, "it looked like a machine gun". Also, two civilians tackled, disarmed and subdued one of the shooters before police officers arrived.

                              propman There was a shitload of defunding talk after the Floyd mess. Or don't you remember?

                              No, I'm not relaxing. How 'bout you think before you type. I already spoke to that stupidity. It was just bullshit reactivity. But it sure as shit didn't happen!

                              propman and actual defunding of police depts

                              Try not to make shit up.

                                  professor maybe have a conversation with a cop about how criminals get back on the streets too quickly. It's a fact, not political.

                                      Weirfan Water Hazard

                                      Yeah, do that! Move this shit to places where people won't see it. We don't want our sensibilities offended and clearly folks have little desire to be informed.
                                      FFS this Super Bowl thread should have been moved to The Water Hazard when the grumpy old men started feeding into their hateful Taylor Swift's a "ho" bullshit.

                                          propman too bad the ones who are doing these shootings haven't been able to get the help they need. Be really nice to know what exactly makes a mass shooting...

                                            I see the dumb fuckin' Democrat, circle jerkers, dick head club has arrived. Fuckin' polluting every fuckin' thing they touch. If it wasn't for your liberal Democrat cities with strict gun laws, we would be anywhere near the top, you dumb mutherfuckers!!!

                                              propman maybe have a conversation with a cop about how criminals get back on the streets too quickly. It's a fact, not political.

                                              Is this little snippet of your knowledge before or after defunding the police? I've got friends who are police officers and detectives. One won't typically just throw out blanket statements like yours without a level of insight into the complexity of the situation. Maybe I have some? Why do we have prison over-crowding? Why do we have professional prisons? What goes on in the corrections industry? What did the "war on drugs" do to people of color being incarcerated for status offenses? What products are produced, for profit in our prison industries? Who gets the money?

                                                  propman professor what you don't believe in the Swift conspiracy??

                                                  Not today. Maybe tomorrow after I resolve my own "ho"-like behavior when I was a young man. LOL

                                                    professor my "snippet" applied before, during and after defunding talk.
                                                    The overcrowding of prisons is just more reason why criminals walk early.